Friday, May 10, 2013

Round II Letters Mailed Today

I haven't confirmed that the EPC mailed the round II letters today, but according to the "Key Dates" section, Round II Notification letters are to be mailed on May 10.  If a new assignment is received, it will replace the current school assignment.  There will be no option to keep your previous assignment.
Any one out there receive a letter?  New assignment?

48 comments:

  1. Does anyone know if we still get a letter if we didn't get any of our Round II choices? I'm wondering if we get notification that we are still assigned our Round I or just no letter at all.

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    1. You will still get a letter. I received rejection letters from EPC for every round last year, and the 1st round this year.

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    2. And if you are registered at your Round I school, you don't have to do anything else right? Just move on to the next round?

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    3. I think if you want to go into Round 3, you need to fill out the wait pool form. I dpn't think it's on the website yet but PFPS mentions it in their fact sheet on Round 3.

      If You Did Not Receive a School of Choice in Round 2
       If you registered at your Round 1 school your seat is secure at that school.
       If you did not register at your Round 1 school you currently have no SFUSD school assignment.
       You may participate in Open Enrollment starting June 12. These are schools with openings
      and no Wait Pool requests.
       You may continue in the process by turning in a Wait Pool form by May 24

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  2. PPSSF sent out an email indicating that the Round 2 letters were mailed today. They also seemed to think that there had been more movement than in some previous years. Good luck to everyone who is waiting.

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    1. Rachel Norton tweeted on 4/22:

      https://twitter.com/rpnorton/statuses/326531162740764672

      "#SFUSD Student Assignment Cmte -- Staff expects to see a lot of movement in Round 2- almost 800 students did not register for K seats alone."

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    2. Rachel Norton posted an update on her blog tonight:
      http://rachelnorton.com/2013/05/10/may-round-assignment-letters-are-in-the-mail/

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    3. Carol from PFPS posted an update:

      Just got word (late tonight) that over 1300 families received one of their Round 2 choices.

      For those who still want to continue in Round 3, the wait pool form is now available online from the SFUSD website.

      http://www.sfusd.edu/en/assets/sfusd-staff/enroll/files/2013-14/2013-14_waitpool_form1.pdf

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  3. Rachel Norton posted additional detail on her blog. www.rachelnorton.com

    There were 1,299 Kindergarten applications submitted for Round 2. Of those, 519 (40%) received one of their choices.

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    1. Huh. That's different than what PFPS posted.

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    2. The numbers are the same. 1310 applicants across all grades received one of their Round 2 choices. 519 of those were Kindergarten applicants.

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  4. 66% of students did not get one of their choices in round 2.

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  5. As far as the 40% receiving one of their choices - we didn't get anything on our list in round 1 and put down over 30 schools/pathways for round 2 for swap value. We'd only really consider a few at the top of our list. Getting a "choice" doesn't necessarily mean its a school you'd consider. At least not in our case. I'd like to know how many received a top 3 or top 5 choice. Waiting anxiously for the mail...

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    1. formerly optimisticMay 11, 2013 at 7:12 PM

      Just curious - what will you do if you get one of the choices you wrote in but wouldn't consider?

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    2. 10:44AM here - Our child has a summer birthday and we're not really sure whether to wait another year anyhow for kindergarten. So we can afford to be a little choosier this year...not that we've had much to choose from so far in this process.

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  6. It's completely ridiculous and insipid ... they open it up to "let you" write "as many
    "choices" as you like", so they can spin it to raise the numbers, inflate the "percentage of people who got one of their choices".
    So sorry all of you have to go through this.

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    1. And what system would you suggest works better? You're clearly projecting bitterness that the district can't magically find the money to expand all the schools on the west side. There isn't any money to do that, and if there ever is a new school built/opened in SF anytime soon, it's gonna be in the southeast quadrant.

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    2. 7:57, I wrote nothing about west side schools or opening new schools, so you seem to be the one doing the "projecting".
      The system was being less and less successful offering parents one of their "choices", so the SFUSD solution was to allow parents to list as many schools as they wanted, therefore increasing a parents chance of getting a "choice". And even when SFUSD did that, only one out of three people got a school they listed in round 2. It isn't a "choice" system -- it's a lottery.
      And yes, they are building a new School, Willie Brown Middle School, I'm sure you're really anxious to send your kid there!

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    3. 10:44 here. Yes, I agree with you about the inflated numbers. I am glad SFUSD opened it up to allow unlimited choices and the swapping part of the lottery makes sense and encourages listing many schools, but then it seems disenguous to publish numbers based on receiving a "choice."

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    4. And it is COMPLETELY disingenuous to compare results from year to year (and say more parents got their "choices" this year than last year) when the variables are entirely different.

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    5. I know how frustrating this process can be - we were also anxiously waiting for our Round 2 letter a few years ago - and wish all of you luck.

      But I would like to point out that SFUSD has to deal with the reality that large numbers of people drop out through this process. Even those who received a school they wanted. Last year of the 500 or so people who didn't register for their K places after Round 1, about 25% of those had received their first choice. If you extrapolate that to this years numbers that would mean 200 people received their 1st choice school but didn't register there.

      Then, during the 3-day count last year another 400 children who were registered for K didn't show up. SFUSD has the data to know that this happens every year. And they simply don't have the budget to hold extra seats so that everyone can be placed before the 3 day count.

      The SFUSD assignment system is by no means perfect, and there are certain improvements I would make, but I would also request that once a parent knows for sure that their child won't be attending an SFUSD school for whatever reason (going private, moving out of SF, holding back for another year) they make every effort to let the school and district know so that spot can be released for another child.

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    6. OP, I still maintain that there's some projection there. Writing as many choices as you like helps the computer assign you a school. It's hard to understand how that could translate to SFUSD juking stats. As always, the district can only do so much to find a place for you, and if you don't like the process, then leave.

      Brown MS is not a new school. It closed in 2011 for some reason and is re-opening.

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  7. No letter in todays mail. Given the round one delivery fiasco you would think SFUSD would have taken appropriate steps to drop earlier to ensure delivery.

    SFUSD Board Members and Administrators should be ashamed and embarrassed that in 2013 the admissions process relies on so many 19th century manual steps (2-step data entry, notification by mail, etc.). This process makes me question whether SFUSD is capable of preparing our children to meet 21st century challenges. First year savings would more than pay for a secure, proven web based application.

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    1. Are letters being sent to everyone? This is from the SFUSD website:

      "If the District is not able to offer you an assignment to any of your amended choice schools, you will not receive another assignment offer. If you registered at the assigned school from the March Placement Period, you will maintain that school assignment. No further action is required. If you did not register at the school offered during the March Placement Period, then your child’s assignment has been canceled and he/she does not have a school assignment."

      Could that mean that if you don't get a new assignment you don't get a letter either?

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    2. Yes that it how I read it: no new assignment, no letter.

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    3. Unless they have changed it this year in the past years you DID get a letter letting you know that none of your selected school had a place (i.e. you didn't get an assignment) and that you could now go onto the wait list for a single school.

      Again I'm not sure if this has changed but that is the system previously.

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  8. Nothing in the mail here, either.

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  9. No letter for us. No letter for our friends either.

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  10. Mail came, but no letter for both my kindergartner and high schooler. :-/ I'd like to hear if anyone got a letter to confirm that the letters did go out...

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  11. I m curious to know if the numbers include all the twins that were separated in Round 1. Nothing in today's mail. Well, at least the bad news won't ruin Mother's Day! Good luck everyone!

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    1. Really - there were twins separated in Round 1? How does that happen? I thought there was a preference to keep them together if the parents want.

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    2. You'd think, right? My husband was down at the education office picking up a Round 2 app and there were no less than 5 families there freaking out because their twins had been separated in Round 1. My husband had asked for 2 applications (because I asked him to) and was asked if he had twins that had been separated. Curious, he said yes. They told him to go to another room where the other families were and everyone was assured that they would get to choose which school they wanted their twins to attend fro the 2 schools they had been assigned...we couldn't figure out how they could make room for them at schools that were already full. Go figure!

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    3. Twin parents do have an option to have their twins run separately or together. So, presumably, those parents of the twins that were separated had chosen that option. (It can be a good option to do this as in theory you now have double the chance at a school you want).

      Once a twin has been assigned to a school, the other twin then gets sibling priority for Round 2 - which pretty much puts them at the top of the line. 800 people didn't register for K spots in Round 1 this year - I don't think SFUSD has released the numbers for this year, but historically every SFUSD Elementary school has had open K spots for Round 2.

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  12. What's interesting here is that nearly 800 seats should have been open, but only 519 were filled. Does that mean there are almost 300 seats at schools that no one wants? If that's the case, there is something really wrong with not only this system, but the schools themselves.

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  13. No mail today for my 5th grader today. Thanks again SFUSD.

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    1. Happy Mother's Day :)

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  14. So nobody got a letter today...? We are still waiting for the mail to arrive.

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  15. I'm going all the way until the Sept. waitpool to try and get a decent school for my kids. But if it doesn't work out, is anyone considering homeschooling with SFUSD?

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  16. Homeschooling WITHOUT SFUSD, ya mean?

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    1. No, I meant homeschooling through SFUSD with their home based education program.

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  17. Dear Anonymous, May 11, 2:00 PM. I could not agree with you more. It would be nice if SFUSD considered online enrollment as an alternative to the labor-intensive, paper-based enrollment process. See "Is SFUSD Ready for Online Enrollment?" from November 2011 http://www.sfkfiles.com/2011/11/is-sfusd-ready-for-online-enrollment.html. There will still be a need for paper for families who do not have computers and Internet access, but the workload and errors at EPC would be greatly reduced if families had an online option too. And imagine not waiting for the Postal Service to deliver the lottery results.

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  18. Back to topic: has anyone received a letter for Round 2? I'm not applying to SFUSD this year but will be next year, so this is my year to "learn" from what you-all experience.

    Thanks.

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    1. one thing to learn from this year is that letters are arriving later (Monday and Tuesday) as opposed to Saturday in past year

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  19. Agreed. SFUSD should stop saying they are going to mail on a certain day and instead tell parents they wil receive their letters during the week of... "fill in the week". It can be one less thing SFUSD has a hard time doing right.

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  20. I received my letter this morning and got nothing. 0/13 we are going for round 3/ waitpool

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  21. We got a Round 2 letter, but we didn't enter Round 2. We accepted Round 1 and enrolled at the school. Is this what is supposed to happen?

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    1. Whoa, that's weird. It didn't place you at a different school did it? Maybe letters were sent to all?

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