The SF K Files is a place for parents who are seeking a school in San Francisco. The site offers up reviews of public, private and charter schools, as well as lots of advice and opinions from the community.
didn't get any of the 12 schools we ranked. randomly assigned to john muir elementary. really upset and not sure what to do.
Don't give up! Register at John Muir before the deadline and submit your Round Two application before April 12. There will be LOTS of movement due to folks headed into privates and entering Round Two for a more convenient/preference choice. If that doesn't yield a better choice, enter the May round, and if that doesn't work, be prepared to hustle the first week of school. I personally know 2 families that got into their first choice the first week of school by walking into the principal's office at the end of the week and making it happen (remember, kids have to attend the 1st three days of school in order for their spot to be secured. Families move, forget to pull their names off the register after getting into private, etc.).
That happened to us last year and we got no school assignment at all for the next two rounds. Get a private backup immediately. We had to go with Catholic school or home school. Good luck.
Here is a good option that is still accepting applications. My son goes to Chinese school on Saturdays at St. Mary's. They have an elementary school that has been around for almost 100 years. Their 8th graders graduate with oral and written fluency in Mandarin. They used to have a full 35-student class with a waitlist, but they had to move into a temporary location due to earthquake safety. It took 15 years, but last year they moved into a beautiful new building on Kearny and Jackson. Their enrollment declined during the relocation, and they are trying to build it back up again. The class sizes are small(average 15) and their students have high test scores, and go to high schools like Lowell, University, St. Ignatius, and Sacred Heart. They want to have a diverse student body including Catholics, Non-catholics and all ethnicities. Contact the Executive Director, Lisa French at email@example.com for more information.
Received high school assignment--it's an HOUR from our house by public transit. Anyone else notice that the postmark on the envelope was March 16th? So much for SFUSD's claim that they met the deadline...
I would think that this would be considered some kind of hardship. This seems incredibly odd to me that the system would do this. I am really sorry and I hope that your Round 2 is better!
We got Chavez, which was not on our list. I can't believe that the best the SFUSD has to offer us is one of the worst schools in the state.
That's just terrible. How can they assign any child to a failing school? Just close it down.
We knew we were getting Chavez even though it wasn't on our list. We live in the Chavez attendance area. However, most of the Chavez area is a "low test score" zone (CTIP1), so most of the students here can leave for another school. Not us though. We are one of the few families that live in the Chavez area but not in the CTIP1, so we had nothing that would allow us to go to another school.
Please remember that some parents reading these boards actually attend these "failing schools," are working their hearts out trying to make them better, and are having a great (albeit challenging) experience. If a school isn't a good fit for your family, that's fine. You get to make that decision. I CAN assure you, though, that until you're actually at that school for a while you don't know anything. Tours, test scores and echo chambers such as this one have given you the impression that unless you get into the handful of the perceived good schools out there there's no hope. I promise you this isn't true. I love my less than perfect school. My child is thriving. The rewards of working together with a diverse community to make things better have been a powerful force for me and my child and we are all thriving in this school that was number 10 on my list if 10.
Would you be OK with listing the general area in which you all live? Did you pick school outside your attendance area and/or did they auto-assign you schools in your attendance area? Thanks and so sorry :(
Plus 1 for 12:18.I'm sure I will read some comments where parents are upset at being assigned to our school. But my son loves it and is receiving a wonderful education. It was #1 on my list for many reasons. We are also working hard in our school to be part of the school community and our new principal is driving a very transparent process to include everyone in school decisions.MJ - sfkfiles blogger from last year.
I'm the 12:01 poster. CC failed to improve to a minimum acceptable performance for more than 5 years and was designated as a failing school. By law, the parents then had the right to organize and restructure the school because of this designation. It does not appear that the parents did this. Does anyone know?
And it feeds into Everett Middle School, which is in the same boat...
Everett Middle school is on the rise... Everyone touring this year for middle school knows this. Families from Fairmount, Marshall and McKinley are feeding into this centrally located, beautiful school with small class sizes.
I have a friend who is an excellent teacher at CC. I believe the school did restructure recently -- maybe a new principal? I forget the details but I recall there were a few options and the school was required to choose one.
We got Cesar Chavez too. And no offense to the parents and students who go there but WHAT THE HELL? We live in Clarendon area, pay $12,000+ in property tax and got sent to the second to WORST school in San Francisco? It is not located anywhere near us, it is in a terrible neighborhood and it is a total FAILURE. The test scores are important, don't fool yourselves. And our children's safety from gang violence is important. You can pretend like it is okay that your kid goes there but obviously, some horrible circumstance made it so your poor child had to go there. The website is primarily in Spanish - you have to scroll down to read any of the information in English. Which essentially SFUSD's admission that the only children who will go there are poor brown children whose families have no other means to put them in a school worthy of ALL children. This process is an embarassment to the City and to us as property owners and tax payers. We will not send out child there, we will both get second jobs to afford ANY other option. No child should have to go to Cesar Chavez and the City of San Francisco and Ed Lee specifically, should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a school to stay open and sending children to sure academic failure at so terrible an insitution.
I am keeping your post for now, but I will delete it in about an hour. Feel free to repost a more thoughtful response. I am very sorry that you are unhappy with your assignment. SFUSD, like many other urban school districts, needs to allocate spots in public schools fairly. At a high level, SFUSD has some amazing schools, a large, large number of middle-good schools and some schools that some people would view as less desirable. The fact that you pay $12k in property taxes doesn't and shouldn't have any bearing for which school you are assigned in public school. I am sure you would agree that is fair and reasonable. With respect to the neighborhood, it might be far from you, but 22nd / Shotwell is smack in the Mission, one of the most desirable neighborhoods in the city (see property value articles on this topic). Gang violence in elementary school? Unless you have some personal experience about gang problems in elementary school, I don't find your gang statement credible and don't appreciate your suggestion.
Anytime someone starts a sentence with "no offense", I assume they're about to say something offensive, like you just did.
Dear KFiles -- I would actually prefer if you did NOT delete the offending post. Reality is that there are a lot of people living in this city who are as sadly racist and offensive as this parent and it's a good dose of reality. Each and every parent of a child who goes to or will go to Chavez should be thanking their lucky stars that this family will NOT be attending their school to spread hatred and elitist attitudes. It's understandable that they are upset at not getting what they feel they deserve -- we all want our kids to get the best, but that isn't an excuse to bash the families that are working hard to give their "poor brown children" everything THEY can afford to give them even though they may not be paying 12K in property taxes.
KFiles Blogger at 1:34I read the "gang violence" reference as a general reference to that neighborhood which indeed has one of the highest crime rates in the city. It would be great to live in a world where the crime-ridden surrounding environment did not cross the school gates, but that is unrealistic, sadly. It creates an undo burden on the school in terms of trash, vandalism, safe drop-offs and pickups, etc. It's hard to focus on educating kids when so much effort goes into beating back the crime.I'm wondering why you would flag that post for removal?
To the KFiles Blogger: please don't delete the anonymous poster from 1:19PM. While you may not agree with the viewpoint, there is no vulgarity in the post. In fact, I think the response at 1:35PM calling the 1:19PM person a "racist" and saying they got "pwned hard" is more offensive. THAT should be deleted. This blog can be hard to read when you live in the Clarendon aa and see so many other kids get into your aa school. Some people seem to take a sick pleasure in seeing clarendon aa kids getting bumped to other schools, as if the clarendon aa is full of rich kids like Pacific Heights. People who live in the Clarendon aa have a right to be pissed off. While I understand that there are not enough seats at Clarendon to accomodate everyone, it's also not true that all those seats are going to poor CTIP-area kids. Just drive by Clarendon at drop-off time in the morning...you've never seen so many parents in Mercedes and BMW's dropping off their kids. But then SFUSD says that all those kindergarten seats went to CTIP kids...yeah right.
Sadly, SFKBlogger, with your agenda, you failed to see the truth in my original post. It was not intended racist at all, in fact, quite the opposite. What I was pointing out is the terrible fact that based on SFUSD's OWN acknowledgement in the Spanish prevalence of CC's website is that the children who are forced to go to that failing school (and it is a failure) are underprivileged children and, based on the demographics of this City, the majority of those children are brown. It is not fair or right for ANY child, brown, white, pink, any, to have to go to such a terrible school in such a dangerous neighborhood. The point is that any family with ANY means, whether they borrow the money, work more jobs, etc. will do whatever it takes so their child has a shot at a better school. And the sad reality with CC is that the majority of families that go there are already working 2+ jobs and unfortunately they cannot send their children anywhere else. So what are they to do? The whole point is to integrate and make sure the underprivileged kids don't all have to go to the crappy schools, right? But the reality is, only poor kids will end up in the crappy schools like CC because all other kids will get to go somewhere else. The post was not racist in the least, back off your agenda and re-read it. As far as thinking we deserve more because we pay taxes and own property, that is not the case. But we deserve to have our child attend school in our neighborhood where he can safely walk to school - not be randomly assigned to a terrible school in a crime-ridden area of the City (read any SF Gate article in the past 10 years, real estate values are up all over the City, your point was weak). SFK - if you are telling me you would feel more comfortable with your 8 year old walking from school to his parent's car at 6 pm from Casear Chavez than from Clarendon or Miraloma or West Portal, then by all means - send your kid there - but I bet your kid did not go to CC.
It might be helpful for the School district to come to these underprivileged schools and educate the not-so-knowledgable parents of these kids...explain that they have a tiebreaker privilege to attend a better school .
Don't DELETE the post. What is offensive about it? The point is for people to express their opinions. It's not racist and does not contain profanity. So what's your problem? The SF public system is a mess, and one of the reasons there are failing schools is because a lot of people do not have the time (due to work) or means to tour schools and fight the system to get their children in a "good" school. Therefore, the failing schools have no checks and balances and the bad teachers/principals go unnoticed. Most people are just trying to survive each day and keep a roof over their children's heads. I toured quite a few schools and the "trophy" schools were nothing to jump up and down about either. It's a big mess.
@ 2:40: WE do jump up and down about our school. So do my children. I have friends all over the city at different public schools who are jumping up and down - and many parents/caregivers are working really hard to make a difference. It is not perfection, I wouldn't want that either. There is such a false perception that all the public schools in SF are just a "big mess". Don't put down the whole system just because you don't like it.
Great people work the system and great kids are in the system - but if your child's public school offering is Cesar Chavez - the system has failed. The school is an embarassment. It is a publicly proclaimed and acknowledged FAILURE. Look at the test scores at Cesar Chavez. And at the high school atriculation rates for its students. Use your jumping energy to effect change for those poor kids - they need it.
@ 2:54 "There is such a false perception that all the public schools in SF are just a "big mess". Don't put down the whole system just because you don't like it."There is also a false perception that all (or a majority) of the public schools in SF meet minimum levels of success. Please don't make the system seem like a total success just because YOU like it (or were lucky enough to not be assigned to one of the failing schools). Contrary to what people like to say on this blog, things DON'T always work out and families are often times assigned to failing school.
"Poor brown children" is racist, no matter how you try to explain it away. I happen to be raising two "poor brown children" 5 blocks away from CC; we even speak Spanish in our house sometimes. We are also smart, hardworking, and trying to do the best for our kids. Honestly, I wouldn't be happy with CC as a school assignment either, but not because my kids would be going to non-white kids from a lower socioeconomic background. (And I would definitely not be afraid of having my kids walk around this neighborhood at 6 pm.)
CC for us as well. We live near 18th and Dolores so it's not a proximity issue. I'm guessing we didn't list enough schools and got shut out of all our choices so we had nothing to swap. After looking at the school's website, I'm unsure about which Academic Program is the most appropriate for my English speaking kid that does not need Special Ed. It looks as though their programming consists of "Spanish Bilingual" which transitions to English only; "English Plus" for those needing to improve their English; and Special Ed. Do they have a straight forward educational tract for my kid? We were obviously a bit naive about the process. It's funny to think about schools near us that we didn't even list like Harvey Milk and Sanchez. In hindsight they would be better options. One thing I'm not naive about is how awful this system is from an ecological perspective. City kids should be able to walk to school, but here in the most progressive large city in America we have to transport our kids in cars, buses and trains. Terrible.
@3:!4pm - You are missing the point! I am also raising two "brown kids." But the fact is that the failing schools are mostly comprised of kids who are of a minority and come from a low socioeconomic family. Go look at the statistics. These schools are caught in an unfortunate situation of not being able to be turned around in the near future.
We got assigned Chavez 2 years ago and went to Catholic school for 3 months. A spot opened up in a school that we liked in January and we moved there. If you do not want a Catholic school or private school back up then register at Chavez. There is a LOT of movement and you will get a spot at one of choice schools, it may be after school starts but you will get it
I am really tired of people saying " .. you will get it". So in the end, even if it takes until after school starts, everyone will just end up with what they want? There will be no disappointed families?
To Anonymous at 3:14 pm - "poor brown children" is a totally accurate and not at all racist description of the majority of children who sadly have no option but to go to CC. Look at the racial make up of the school - African American, Latino and Mexican American, and other non-Whites and Asians make up the vast majority of the school. That is not fair to those children. You obviously did not carefully read the posts regarding "poor brown children" if you understood it to mean that we do not want our child to go to school with "poor brown children." We want our child to go to school with poor children of all colors, middle class kids, rich kids, all of the variety of children San Francisco has to offer - but we want them to have that opportunity at a safe, successful school with a proven track record of academic success for its students, not at a horrible loser of a school. As for "poor brown kids" - maybe that has racist or derogatory meaning in another language but in English and in the context it was used, it referenced underprivileged children of the lowest socio-economic class in San Francisco - African American and Latino/Mexican American. If you want to puff and posture about racism and ignore that the problem is that NO kids deserve to go to such a horrible school, then go ahead but you are missing the point and wasting energy.
We live 1 block from Chavez, and while it may sound incredible to you, we pay nearly as much in property taxes as you do. We walk to another public elementary school in the neighborhood and have no safety concerns about our child spending all day, every day, in this lovely community.
I agree with anyonymous 3:43 post. I hate it when people say not to worry if your child was assigned a bad school, that it will all work out. My child was assigned to a terrible school last year for kindergarten. I went 0 for 10 in the first round, 0 for 14 in the 2nd round, 0 on the final one-choice wait list, 0 on the midyear transfer in January, and now 0 for 8 again this year to try to move her to another school for 1st grade. We're stuck in a crap school, and SFUSD won't let us out. Unfortunately, private school is not an option. Sorry, I know that people prefer this board to stay positive. But most of you who are disappointed have only been living this nightmare for 1 day. I've been living it for a year.
@4:54 - So sorry. Which schools did you list for 1st grade? I'm so surprised and sad for you that you did not get one of your schools. I hope you get one of your choices into the summer when people move. What a long process it has been for you.
We got Sunnyside (#11 on our list, I believe?). I visited but want to take another look. I checked their website and saw there is a tour listed for March 19, but when I called to find out what time, it sounded like the principal wasn't sure they were holding a tour. Anyone have any insights?
Yes, there's a tour. I'm a Sunnyside PTA board member, and here's the scoop:We will be having a meet and greet event for all new families on Sunday, April 7th at 10am and encourage both parents and children to attend and get a chance to see our great school! We will also be holding tours of the school on March 19th and April 2nd at 9am for anyone interested in refreshing their memory of the school or seeing it for the first time. To sign up for a tour or if you have any questions, please email us at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Sunnyside was our #1 choice. Our mail doesn't arrive until after 5, though.
Thank you so much, Rachel. I'll send an email. Would also love to hear what grade your child is in and what you love about the school. Do you use one of the aftercare programs? I also understand there is a big construction project about to start, which sounds like a big challenge and a big opportunity...
Poster from 11:59 am here. I should say I think Sunnyside may have ranked higher on our list if it were closer to our house--we're more towards the Sunset. Trying to figure out if we should enter Round 2 for something closer.
We got Sunnyside as well, our #2 (Miraloma was our #1) and our local. We're waitlisted at a private T-K and will be deciding between these two. I think we'll definitely be taking a tour etc . . . In general, I'm pleased.
The poster who lives closer to Sunset - did you try Jefferson ? It is a great choice if you are near the Sunset
If you enroll in the school you are assigned and then decide to go for round 2, are you able to keep your assigned school if you DON"T get any schools on your round 2 list?
Yes, you only fall out of the first school if you are assigned to a school on your round 2 list. If you don't register at the first school, however, you may end up with no school.
Yes. Once you enroll in your assigned school, you won't lose that assignment unless sfusd can place you into one of your higher choice schools.
But if you know you would go private over your Round 1 school, you don't have to bother registering at it to go into Round 2, right?
That is correct. SFUSD will release your Round 1 spot to the Round 2 lottery run.
The response directly above this post was directed at 2:14
We are the family that went 0-3 on the privates, including two rejections. Wrote twice expressing our grief and confusion. We got our #1 school - Lilienthal. I am stunned and speechless. In a million years we did not think this could happen. I am crying with joy instead of sadness. I am so sorry for anyone who did not get good news today because I completely understand it, but for us we actually got our perfect solution and I am beyond relieved. Good luck everyone, I hope for you.
I am so happy that at least SFUSD came through for you - congrats!!
Congratulations! Thanks for sharing and identifying yourself....I'm really glad to know it worked out so well!
I am so happy for you! In tears for you, you deserve it!
Yes, hooray for you, marlaivy! Excellent news.
I share your feelings of joy and relief. We went 0/5 on Friday, and we got our first choice public too, which happens to be our neighborhood school. We didn't even really think it was a possibility given its popularity. Congratulations to everyone who gets good news today, and lots of hugs and support to those who are going on to round 2.
So happy for your and sorry for all the grief and doubt over the weekend. The stars were aligned for you on this one. Excellent choice- don't second guess it!
I am so happy for you. I had responded to 2 of your posts on the private school feed and was hoping that the SFUSD lottery would be successful for you, just sorry that you had to go through a stressful weekend. It was meant to be.
so happy for you!! sorry you had to endure a crappy weekend.
I wonder if our sweet little postal delivery man would be upset if I tackled him as he gets out of his truck today, lol!
Got out 1st choice Argonne but they start in July. Rethinking this.
11:59Just curious, is Sunnyside your neighborhood school? Just wanted to get an idea if people are getting assignments to schools that are on their list but not their neighborhood school. Thanks.
11:59 here. Sunnyside is not our neighborhood school. We listed our neighborhood school as our #1 choice, but no dice.
We listed our neighborhood (Miraloma) as first choice and got #5 (glen park)
Definitely an "up and coming" school -- especially with the new principal!
Glen Park is good, on the rise and will be transformed in a few years. Not there yet but there is a very strong parent community there
We had the exact same thing happen. Listed miraloma (neighborhood school and I am in love with it) and got GP, which was 5 or 6 on list.
Hi All - Congrats to some and so sorry for others - waiting for ours to arrive - would be helpful if everyone doesn't mind to list the attendance area (and specific school) vs. What area and school they were assigned - Thanks and good luck!
went 0/15, assigned to McCoppin. Thanks god we got into MCDS. The public system is ridiculous. It should not be random luck that some kids get great assignments, others bad., We are fortunate and can buy our way out of this. But what of the folks who can't do that? This is a terrible system
Was McCoppin your attendance area school?
McCoppin is a bad assignment? Really?
I am pretty sure it took some effort for you to get into MCDS. Use that same effort in the public system. Many people go through a few rounds before they get a school that will work for them. If you just want to be handed the school, and are not willing to work for it, public is probably not for you.
"It should not be random luck." Um, it's a lottery, which by definition, involves a lot of random luck.
We got assigned to McKinley, our #4 pick and neighborhood school. We will go round 2 for Spanish immersion, but will be happy if we end up at McKinley.
I got Marshall. Live nearby. Not sure, but leaning toward Round 2. Maybe I'll end up swapping with you! :)
curious what would your top immersion be? Alvarado?I toured Marshall and liked it esp. the principal, the community wasn't very diverse but that is what happens in immersion, i guess.
We got TK at Zaida Rodriguez. Hoping it will lead to Alvarado (our attendance area school) next year. Anyone else in the same boat?
We went to Zaida Rodriguez this year and had an awesome year. I'm waiting for the postwoman to leave right now to see if we got SIP at Alvarado. I'll let you know.
I posted above, the mail came and we got Fairmount our #3 choice. I'm very happy. We live in the Alvarado attendance area too and attended Zaida Rodriguez this year.
"That's just terrible. How can they assign any child to a failing school? Just close it down."Because about 20% of the capacity in SFUSD is API Ranked 1-2 schools. (About 50% are ranks 7-10, and 30% Ranks 3-6, IIRC). The assignment system comes down to . You can't find a quart in a pint pot, and those who don't indicate enough flexibility in their SFUSD application, or who don't have a Plan B are the ones who get assigned into the lower-scoring schools.** Why? Because those are the schools where there's still capacity after the algorithm runs out of spaces at schools in demand. So every year, on this blog, there's outrage from people assigned to Muir or Chavez or Bryant.* But any assignment system has to deal with the problem of "who gets Muir". In other districts, you can essentially buy your way out of the bad schools, leaving the crap schools to the poor. In SF, we have a more equitable if more arbitrary system, that does at least give some degree of choice.[* Having said that, I know of a kid who went to CC and then a scholarship to University High and then Columbia. He had more interesting college application essays than most.][** On Plan B's: The Catholic schools have the most slack capacity at the elementary level in SF compared to the publics, the charters, and the independents, and should be the default Plan B because of that.]
Mostly agree, but do keep in mind the really salient point is the one you made about 'those who don't indicate enough flexibility in their SFUSD application.' If you filed on time and listed enough schools to get an assignment, then the assignment system WILL NOT give you one of the aforementioned, unloved neighborhood schools. If you did get that assignment, it's worth checking with EPC to see if there's an error.I'm mystified that we're 3 (or 4?) years into the new assignment system and people still don't understand how the assignment system works, and are livid when they only list 15 schools (invariably the most popular ones) and get assigned Muir/Chavez/Sanchez/Bryant. That's because your name goes into 15 lotteries, and if you come up with zero 'draws,' then you're holding no school at all, and you can go no further along the assignment algorithm (the swapping phase).
So in your opinion, how many school does a family need to list to exhibit "flexibility in their SFUSD application"? 25, 30, 40, 40+? Is it even realistic for every family to come up with a list of 25+ schools that even remotely fits the family needs given factors like start time, work schedule, commute, etc. Is your solution for me to list 30 schools so that I don't get assigned Chavez? I am not sure that works if what I instead get assigned to is a school all the way across town that starts at 7:50am.
We listed 18 schools, mostly in Richmond/Sunset and got our 1st choice
General education at Rosa Parks (choice 18). Any thoughts on how gen ed fares vis-a-vis JBBP? It seems like a great school, but most of the happy parents seem to be in JBBP and I'm wondering if we should be concerned.
Only go for JBBP there. Thought gen ed class was depressing when I toured. Classes are smaller because a lot of the students are low income with lots of challenges, so the program may not be a good fit
Thanks, appreciate the feedback.
We are an 0/3 private school family with ZERO tie breakers. We had 16 choices on our list and after reading the posts so far today, it's hard to stay positive, but doing our best. Thanks to everyone who is posting and especially to those of you who are trying to look on the sunny side of things!
Commodore Sloat, which I believe was maybe our 10th choice or so out of about 40 (AA is Glen Park). Not a bad outcome at all.
Did you get no school?
Sloat seems great. Congratulations and good luck if you are going for further rounds! SO nice to read some positive news here. Thanks for sharing.
Argonne Elementary, which was fourth on our list after Grattan and Clarendon (Gen and JBB). Went 3 for 7 in private/parochial. Leaning towards Argonne. Any Argonne parents out there with feedback on the school?
clarendon, 1st choice, AA is Carver
I am so curious if anyone did/did not get into Starr King and whether they put it down as their #1 choice, also whether their child tested proficient in Mandarin or not...thank you
If you tested proficient and didn't get Starr King Mandarin immersion, you should go down to the EPC because it is likely an error. If you didn't test proficient, and didn't get in, I would keep trying. If the spots for proficient kids do not fill (and they have not filled in prior years), they will be released at some point - parents at the school are still in conversation with the district about when. In the end, almost everyone who is willing to be persistent has gotten in; it just requires some patience.
Lakeshore here. If I remember it was about 9-10th on our list. We didn't get a chance to squeeze in a tour, since we were doing admissions process for both my kinder kid and 9th grader. I've heard good things, but I think we'll try for round II to get closer to home. My older one got 0-4 of her high school selections and got assigned to Burton. We are going to accept her catholic HS choice instead.
Lucky you!It was my first choice and I got NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(
Don't stress (yet). There is still a lot of movement during the summer. I only say this since I survived 9 years of the public school system and doing this three times with my daughter (the third being this recent HS application process).
Commodore Sloat, our first choice. AA Alvarado.
Would be interested to hearing your thought process for weighing Commodore Sloat against Alvarado, if you felt like sharing ...
We live in CTIP. Haven't had a chance to go home and check the mail. Anyone else who has that advantage (sorry, everybody else) gotten news?
I am CTIP and got Clarendon JBBP - our 1st choice. I'm feeling very, very lucky
I am ctip and got our first choice Clarendon Gen.
Ctip doesn't guarantee anything.
Sure it does. Look at the statistics on SFUSD's website.
Not if you request a high demand or immersion program.
One twin got #7 of the 21 schools we listed (Francis Scott Key). The other one got a school that was neither the our AA school (Lakeshore) or one of our 21. Interesting that the one that got shut out actually had the Round 2 application form in her envelope already
Sunnyside! Happy about this.
Sunnyside too. Lots of Sunnyside assignments apparently.
My son goes to Sunnyside! We are in Kinder. We love it. Very nice community rich school and a dedicated principal. Welcome!
Got assigned to Sunnyside, ranked it 4th. Happy about this.
George Peabody, was our #2, very happy here, sorry for all who did not get any of their choices...
Congratulations and welcome! We have a 2nd grader at George Peabody and will have an incoming Kindergartner next year. It is a wonderful school.
Congrats on Peabody! It was our first choice last year and we got it. LOVE it there.
Did anyone on here put Lafayette, Grattan, or Jefferson on your list and did you get any of those? Thanks!
i put jefferson (3) and grattan (8). got neither of them.
Listed 10 schools, got assigned to Sanchez which we did not list and which is across town and starts at 8am. WTF. My question: can I register for Sanchez at EPC at the same time that I turn in my Round 2 Form? It seems like I have to register at Sanchez and ALSO go to EPC to turn in my Form. Insane. Why can't I do both at one location? Can anyone confirm please?
I am curious what 10 schools you put down and what your area school is. 10 seems like a nice number to me, but maybe I'm delusional! Do you mind sharing? So sorry that things aren't working out for you! Good luck!
Attendance area school is Clarendon but we have no tie-breaks. Our list of 10: Clarendon (both prog), New Trad, Argonne, Grattan, W Portal, Sloat, Jefferson, Rooftop, Lawton. Should we submit that same list for Round 2? How should we change it to improve our chances?
Got Cesar Chavez. not on our list. AA Harvey Milk. Headed to round 2.
Daniel Webster SI, #13 on our list. We are feeling on the fence, so if anyone has thoughts about the program, would love to hear.
You could not ask for a more committed, visionary parent community. Neighborhood is lovely; school is small-scale, there is PARKING.
We just got Webster SI and it was our first choice. I know many families in the program. It's a very welcoming place.
Our child got Webster GE, it was our second choice, Webster SI was our first choice. We have very positive impressions of the school's faculty and parents, all around. Oh, and the kids look very happy. I'm not sure if they're learning anything . . . but I'll assume they are.
does anyone know where, on the sfusd site, it has all the stats for this years assignments (re: how many got first choice, etc)?
They generally post it right on the front page when it is first released. If not you would find it under: Enroll in SFUSD schools -> Student Assignment and Enrollment ReportsI just checked and don't see it yet, although I believe SFUSD did say it would be published today. Few more hours to go still, I guess.
I didn't see it posted either.
They've got it posted now. http://www.sfusd.edu/en/enroll-in-sfusd-schools/student-assignment-system.html
We got our last choice Sanchez. I only listed neighborhood schools. I am a little disappointed I didn't get something higher on our list since I wasn't trying for anything very competitive.
3:17 - curious to what your list was, and why you listed Sanchez if you would not be happy to go there?
Algorithm says Flynn GE, which was 8th on our list. AA J Serra. Anybody with pos or neg impressions of our assigned school.
We had almost the exact same situation last year - Flynn GE 9th on our list, AA was J Serra. We ended up choosing a private school, but I have some friends who have been happy with Flynn GE, and I liked the parent group there. No other inside scoop, but good luck.
A suggestion for SFKFiles: for next year, when you put up this post, could you please ask that anyone posting their results please include: AA school, school assigned (and that school's ranking on their list), number of schools on their list (or even the list of schools they put down?) I'm really curious to see how many schools people are putting down. We put down 16, which I thought would be plenty to get a good chance, but after reading here, that doesn't seem like a very good number after all! Thanks!
I'm curious too. We listed all the schools. If the algorithm works, we should get a top choice. The fewer you list, your chances go down. My husband is a nerd and researched this. We'll see, our mails comes at 5.
Got McKinley. 5th on our list. Listed our Attendance area school, Alvarado, first. Trying for round 2.
We went 0/10, AA is Miraloma, got assigned to Longfellow which just isn't acceptable. So it's on to Round 2 or other options.
We got #8 out of 28, Rosa Parks JBBP. Attendance area is Clarendon. Have heard good things about it but will need to figure out if we will send her there or proceed with Round 2.
After 0/4 for independent and charters, we got Glen Park School - our first choice. A big sigh of relief. Sunnyside is our AA school. We had listed 10 schools- Glen Park, Grattan, Miraloma, Sunnyside, Rooftop, Sloat, West Portal, Alvarado, Clarendon, Feinstein.
Congratulations! My kids went to Grattan under the current Glen Park principal's tenure. She is a fantastic leader. We were fortunate to be there during the early turn around years, back when it was considered a hidden gem. Those were exhilarating times for the community. I have no doubt Glen Park is a rising star with her at the helm.
Interesting @4:02, can you comment on why you liked Glen Park ahead of Sunnyside?
Glen Park over Sunnyside mainly because - 1) The principal - she really impressed me (before knowing her history). I met her in the hall just before the tour not knowing who she was so I was able to small talk with her. Plus she is also a Glen Park parent. The Sunnyside principal was nice (a soon to be K parent) but maybe having an off day on my tour? He did not impress me as much. 2) The facilities - Glen Park just had a major renovation last year so the building is in top shape. Sunnyside will have a major renovation starting soon, continuing into the school year. I work facilities management so the physical environment is something important to me. I was not feeling comfortable with the idea of construction while school was in session.
@4:43: The principal isn't a Glen Park parent. Her children are older and out of elementary school.
We got our #2, Yick Wo, even though it is not our neighborhood school (although we live very close)
Curious: did you choose Yick Wo mostly for how close it is to you? Would love to hear your reasons for putting it so high on your list vs. other schools!
My youngest goes to Yick Wo (my oldest did too and is on her way to Lowell) and it is a great school with the best teachers. Active parent community, great enrichment programs (opera, ballet, art computer lab), Playworks, and supplemented ASP. The school will be completely renovated next year so the school will be housed at the old City College bldg. (also being completely renovated around the corner. Only problem for most is 9:30 start and location.
Garfield, last choice (8th). AA is Alvarado. Garfield is across the city for us. Heard good things, but will definitely do round 2 and wait list. Anyone else have input on Garfield?
I live in the neighborhood, have friends who go there and would send my child there in a minute. PTO is really taking off, has a beautiful location, and supportive community with lots of resources.
We were assigned Feinstein, our 1st choice. BUT, our AA school is Drew (API rank up to 2 now from last year's rank of 1) which was not our our list of 10 schools and we are in CTIP1. We are probably the only people crazy enough to be willing to drive that far, but we really liked the school.Good luck to all!
Alvarado General Ed. Our AA and first choice. My husband and I are beyond happy and relieved.
We got Yick Wo, #15 out of 16. I was actually pretty disappointed, though my husband was very positive. We know it's a nice little school and we don't have to get up at the crack of dawn. But I honestly thought we'd at the very least our area school, which is New Traditions. We know we are lucky that we didn't randomly get assigned somewhere. My husband points out that at least there will still be chances to move to a school we wanted more once all the private school people give up their spots!
I have heard amazing thing about Yick Wo!
We listed every school. Per the algorithm, the more you list, the better chances you have. We got our #1 choice, Miraloma.
Wow, that's pretty amazing. Congrats!
We were assigned Lakeshore (14th out of 15 listed). AA is Miraloma which was our #1 choice. I don't know what would have happened if I had stopped at 10 schools! We will probably go for round 2.
We got Peabody, our #1, and we're thrilled! AA is Jefferson. We got in via the swap, for sure, as our good friends who live in the Peabody AA and put it #1 did not get in - we're bummed about this (and feel a bit guilty) but we hope they have a good shot in future rounds. We put 20+ schools on our list, but most importantly we created our list in such a way as to maximize our chance of getting into Peabody by swap. So we put schools that we have no interest in, such as Lilienthal (7:50AM too early for us), Lilienthal Korean immersion, Argonne (don't want summer school), and Clarendon JBBP on our list below Peabody AND ahead of Jefferson even though we prefer Jefferson to all those schools. We also put Clarendon GE at #2, which we had a 0.0% chance of getting into, for the sole purpose of dropping our potential swap schools lower and thus making a swap more attractive to the computer. Jefferson ended up being #11 or so on our list, low enough not to interfere with swap opportunities. In the end, though, it was dumb luck. Others used similar strategies, I'm sure, and didn't get their top choice. We know we're lucky and wish all of you the very best luck today and going forward. And if today doesn't work out, you'll eventually get what you want if you stick it out long enough.
can you explain what the swap is? i don't follow what you're talking about
This all seems very strange that you could manipulate the computer in such a way. Good for you to get your #1, but it doesn't seem right that your friend, whose area school is Peabody, did not get in. We also put our neighborhood school lower down our list, but we didn't eve get that. Our list seems very similar to yours, but we ended up with our last choice. It seems to make absolutely no sense.
Original poster here. The swap makes total sense overall but does lead to some injustices. The computer is trying to give everyone their highest choice. Say family A gets school X, their #4, and family B gets school Y, their #3. But say school Y was family A's #1 and school X was family B's #1. Then the computer will automatically swap them so that they both get their #1. That's how someone from outside the neighborhood can get a desirable neighborhood school. It's still much more likely overall that a family in the neighborhood will get that neighborhood school, but if the non-neighborhood family gets lucky and wins a desirable citywide school (like Lilienthal) somewhere down on their list, then there if very good chance of the computer swapping that family into their #1. It is an imperfect system, but calling it computer manipulation (as if I'm hacking the system) is inaccurate. Of course the most absurd flaw in the system is the extreme advantage given to CTIP 1 folks. Numerous high SES families just move in to those neighborhoods to get their #1 choice, which is a virtual guarantee for them.
I ranked 10 -- and it was a good list, if I do say so myself! (i.e., I only ranked one insanely oversubscribed school, and the other nine seemed like "hidden gems" or at least "semi-hidden gems.") I got assigned to John Muir -- not one of my gems. (My assignment area is McCoppin, for those who are interested.) We got outright rejected from one private and wait pooled at the other private we applied to.
Anyone waiting for TK assignments? Put Argonne and got Leola. Going for round two.
We got ER Taylor General Ed, our #7 out of 7. It is our AA school, which is nice, but we were really lukewarm about the tour. Don't know what we will do.
We got Miraloma. First choice out of 10 and also our neighborhood school. Shocked! But we are going to pursue independent. I don't know how to release a SFUSD spot sooner than 4/12. Any ideas?
You release the SFUSD spot by not registering at the school. Thanks for releasing!
Thank you so much for releasing your spot. Very admirable.
We were assigned to Starr King Mandarin Immersion, our first choice. AA is Cesar Chavez, and we don't have CTIP preference.
we got sloat, our #1. our AA is francis scott key which we put 6thwe listed ten schools and applied to creative arts charter (wait listed)good luck to everyone!
We got our #1 pick, our neighborhood school, Dianne Feinstein. Happy and relieved!
Got our first choice and AA-Alvarado. We listed 10 schools. I had very little hope, and was seriously contemplating a move to the peninsula. Maybe this is sign that we should stay!
Got assigned TK - Tule Elk (#1), #2- Noriega, #3-Argonne. We live in outer Richmond.
Tule Elk is a lovely school. The play area and garden are spectacular. My son spent a wonderful year of preschool here. Congratulations!
Our twins were assigned together to Tule Elk for TK. We had ranked Argonne#1, Noriega #2 and Tule Elk #3. We had no tie-breakersand live in Cole Valley.Looking forward to checking it out this week. Anybody have any ideas for aftercare at Tule Elk (tuition based aftercare on site if $460/child?)
Could anyone provide impressions, positive and negative, about Creative Arts Charter?
It's amazing! I have heard nothing but good things, and the principal is a wonderful guy.
We got Alvarado Gen Ed, which is our attendance area school. It was 5th of our 10 choices.Can any current Alvarado parents comment what they think of the school, the teacher's time and attention to the kids, the music/art/PE programs, etc. Any input, good or bad, is much appreciated.
We got our number 3 choice Fairmount. We live in Alvarado AA and attend Zaida Rodriguez (a tie breaker for Alvarado). Buena Vista was our second choice. We are THRILLED with Fairmount, but will still try to work up the list in the next rounds. Good luck to everyone!
Come on USPS where are you?
We got our mail, but not our SFUSD letter... did you get your letter yet?
Didn't get our letter and still no sign of the postman....
Many liberal-minded people in this city like the assignment system until they get assigned. Then, if they don't "win" the lottery, they are outraged at the injustice of it. LOL
We are thrilled that we got into CACS and that is where my daughter will be attending school in the fall! We went 0 for 12 in the SFUSD lottery. We are AA Guadalupe and that was our assignment. Good luck to everyone out there and congrats to those who received one of their choices!
Bryant - was not on our list. AA Flynn.we had about 20 schools on our final list. not one?? reallyno privates, no charter, no public school.
So sorry. Hope it works out and you get something soon.
I'm so sorry for you. That happened to us last year, and we're back in the lottery again for 1st grade. Wishing you the best. My mail hasn't arrived yet...
have any of the private school wait lists begun to move for you yet?
SFUSD has posted the 2013 enrollment highlights. There are four posted reports, but many people like to check out the first one listed - Highlights of March 2013 Assignment Run.http://www.sfusd.edu/en/enroll-in-sfusd-schools/student-assignment-system.html
We didn't get our letter in the mail! Feeling especially tortured now. Anyone else in the same boat?
Here were the top requested schools for K:ClarendonRooftopGrattanLawtonW. PortalLilienthalAFYSunsetArgonneMiralomaJeffersonAlamoFeinsteinPeabodyShermanI'm surprised that there aren't any spanish immersion schools on the list.
We were assigned Cesar Chavez (not even on our list) - so we will take our spot at one of the independents we were accepted to.
We got Paul Revere. It wasn't one of our 12 or so choices. We live in AA Junipero Serra (also not one of our choices). We'll try for Round 2, and try to get off the waitlist at the one independent we applied to.
Got CL KIPIt was our 1st choice. AA is FSK, which was 4 on our list of 6 choices.Wife and i are overjoyed. Congrats to all received their choices and Good luck to all who are waiting for the mail.
Dianne Feinstein #4 choice.would love to hear from current families or others who are in or like to be at this school.
Assigned #1choice, lafayette. We live in Alamo attendance area.
Regarding the controversial comments made after 1 pm today and while most of us would agree that the amount of property one pays ought not to have a bearing on school placement and school quality, the State of California disagrees. Under the current educational finance system, districts with property tax revenues above the assigned base revenue limit is entitled to keep the remainder. That's why some basic aid districts spend over 26,000 per student and have spectacular schools.
1 twin Flynn, the other twin Harvey Milk, not happy! The schools were our 10th and 9th choice... Any opinions on Harvey Milk?
Anyone else in 94131 NOT get a letter today?
Commodore Sloat. AA West Portal. Had New Traditions as number one, Clarendon number two, then Commodore Sloat, then AA West Portal GE (for swap value only). We are reasonably satisfied. Tried for Independent to no avail. Racial diversity (our son is African American and Caucasian) was the reason or listing West Portal so low.