Thursday, April 5, 2012

May Placement Period aka Round 2 Deadline approaching

From http://www.sfusd.edu
If you would like to participate in the May Placement Period, you must submit an Amended Choice Form by April 13th listing any number of more preferred schools than your initial offer for the May Placement Period.
Offers for the May Placement Period will be mailed out on May 11th. You will be notified if an assignment can be offered to one of your amended choices. There will also be a final waiting pool process in August where parents may submit a request for ONE SCHOOL as openings become available prior to the first two weeks of schools’ opening. Parents must submit a choice form for every placement period in which they would like to participate.

The date for Form submission is the same date as the end date for Round 1 school registration.

Are you planning to go into round two?
Did you register at your placement school to hold the spot while waiting for round 2 or even round 3?

Fingers crossed for those of you going into round 2.

57 comments:

  1. Can anyone imagine an assignment system free from all these time-consuming complexities? An assignment system that allows people to concentrate on student achievement instead of student placement? It isn't hard to imagine. It's the great majority of the rest of the country and the world.

    Good luck to the Round 2 crowd. But your odds are better in Vegas.

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  2. Here's an ON TOPIC answer:

    We're going into round 2. Our round 1 assignment was OK, and at a school that is pretty popular, but not the school we want. So, I'm hoping it serves us well.

    I haven't enrolled in my round 1 assignment yet -- not terribly convenient to go over there in the middle of the work day. I had planned to do it today, and then realized it's a furlough day for the district. Fortunately there's still next week.

    Good luck all!

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  3. They should try to minimize distance in round two. No more than 1 mile for elementary, 2 for middle. It is doable.

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  5. Enrolled in my round 2 assignment today.

    I hesitate to respond to Floyd's suggestion, but here goes...

    My round 2 assignment, which I don't love but is OK, is just over 2 miles from my house. By MUNI it's about 20 minutes door to door, which I can totally deal with. the "no more than 1 mile for ES 2 for middle" serves the W of the city (Sunset) well, but doesn't serve those of us on the other end of town very well.

    Also, close doesn't mean convenient. There are 2 programs roughly a mile from my house, and neither one is accessible by public transport and one involves a super hilly walk.

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  6. Michelle, you have a point, maybe some exceptions should be made. I just mean in general someone in the Avenues shouldn't be told their only possibility is 3+ miles away. I know in SOMA nothing is that close. Maybe hills should be factored in.

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  7. Zero of ten choices in rd. 1; bumped it to 24 in rd. 2 (several 3+ miles away). It'd be nice to get one of the 14 schools closer to our home than SFUSD's rd. 1 default. Bracing for a long summer of open enrollment musical chairs into Sept.

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  8. Floyd,

    It is always the same pattern with you. First you make some kind of arbitrary statement about how to fix things, like in this case recommending a distance requirement without thinking it through. Then the obvious problems associated with unthoughtout solutions are raised and you are suddenly changing your mind. Normally, it is OK to miss stuff and change your mind, but in your case you do it with such frequency that nothing you prescribe can be taken seriously because nothing you have offered has been vetted with even a modicum of background research before you decide to offer it as a solution. Why should any of your ideas be taken seriously when you change them at the drop of a hat?

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  9. Sorry to hear that, Jed. Fingers crossed for you...

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  10. Jed,

    Assignment system problems aside, there just aren't many worthwhile seats left at this juncture. That will only change for the worse until after the year starts in August when unoccupied seats can be opened up. Restating the obvious here... but for the purpose of optimism, if it has any purpose at all, there is a larger measure of hope for those that are willing to wait ( make a back up plan), particularly because most are not willing to. It worked for me.

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  11. I just want to maintan the idea people should go close. I feel sympathy if it's up a giant hill, but I don't think she should be able to bump someone a block away if she's near another school. I think a giant hill within a mile isn't obscene. Maybe downtown is different, but there aren't that many schools downtown so even up a hill for a mile is better than 3 miles down a hill. I'm trying to make everyone happy but it's hard. I just agree with her it should be a factor, not sure how much but convenience is important, it's important parents have time to work and convenience should be a factor.

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  12. I will be entering the lottery for the 2013-2014 school year. I have 4 kids that will eventually feed into the SFUSD system (that sounds ominous)... The first in 2013-2014. I wondered what people thought about housing location and SFUSD assignments. It seems that the kids can end up anywhere, regardless of AA. Is it best to try to be centrally located then or should I not even think about the SFUSD assignment process when buying/renting in SF?

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  13. Moriah,

    I take it you have not followed the assignment conversation until now.

    In short, neighborhood preference can be greater or lesser for the individual depending upon the neighborhood school. If it is in high demand your chance of attending under the neighborhood preference is lessened such that in some cases you have a very small chance (Ex. Clarendon ES). In other cases where demand is low your chance is 100%. However, if you are planning to move you could reside in a CTIP1 area and get carte blanche to practically any school you want. Otherwise, moving to increase your chance of success is risky.

    In short, if moving is an option for you, SFUSD will give you golden ticket as long as you have the right address. Of course, the SAS details could change so to be sure you don't move too early. If you have a 4 year old, now would be the right time.

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  14. Don, Floyd at 3:24 am followed by Moriah at 3:59 am, same day--same late late night. Let us assume Floyd is being framed.

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  15. I don't know Moriah, think it's just a coincidence.

    Moriah, I think you should move to the outer Richmond or outer Sunset and put a lot of choices. You can put 10-15, even close to 20 that all feed into good middle schools which are feeders to Lowell, which is by far the best high school in Northern California, public or private, of over 500 kids, and a feeder to Cal. Being in SF you have the opportunity for your kids to go to a high school that's better than any in surrounding areas.

    Don't move to an area that's super hard like Clarendon. Move into the Alamo, Feinstein, Lafayette, Argonne, or Sunset zone, among a few others. It's getting close to 100% if you live in the district and put those #1, but not 100%. But if you put 20, you'll get one, and probably something close. That's my best advice. Things could change.

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  16. Yes I'm new. Sorry if my post was 'suspicious' not sure why it would be(?) let me in on it (?). I'm in Kenya and moving to SF so we have never lived in SF but want to. This lottery system is ridiculous! Strange that they don't just give the schools that have the obvious demand more resources but I'm probably saying something ignorant or naive and political! Don and Floyd thanks for your input. So once my first is in will the other 3 just feed into that school? Also there doesn't seem to be any con to listing a bunch of schools and on some boards it seems a 'strategy' is to fill up some lower slots with CW schools so you have a chance of a 'swap' to a school higher on your list. **btw let me know if there's a *better* place to ask my basic questions. I don't want to annoy people, just trying to make sense of this process.

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  17. "you could reside in a CTIP1 area and get carte blanche to practically any school you want" --- seems like the system is pretty broken if there is a 'golden ticket' --- man, that's retarded. ok, so assuming you're gaming the system which it seems EVERYBODY is trying to do to increase their consumer satisfaction... how long do you have to live in the CTIP1 area so that you don't trigger any witch-hunts? And, what's the point of the lottery anyways, if the consumers (the parents and the kids) end up at schools they hate or that make them hate life to try and deliver kids to school. shaking my head. makes no sense.

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  18. I didn't write any post at 3 in the morning.

    Moriah, what I didn't say about the assignment system since it was irrelevant to your school search is that the SAS/CTIP system was set up for the sole purpose of creating diversity, but due to the ridiculous address-related preference, it fails to make a relevant remedy.

    Whether Floyd is posting under new names and created Moriah as a foil - I don't know.

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  19. However, since the acronym AA is universally used to denote African American and SF K files is the only place I have ever seen used otherwise, given that Moriah is new and the term AA was not used in this thread, I figure she is a plant.

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  20. And Charlie,

    It is really irresponsible of you to lump me together with Floyd, especially when you have spoken out when the same thing was done to you.

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  21. Don, when you say that I had lumped you with Floyd, what comments of mine, are you referring to? Please identify the exact words so thzt I can be more careful the next time. I certainly was not implying anything of the sort. And I am at a loss to see where it could have been taken that I was implying misconduct on your part, Don.

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  22. Blogger Charlie said...

    Don, Floyd at 3:24 am followed by Moriah at 3:59 am, same day--same late late night. Let us assume Floyd is being framed.

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  23. Maybe I'm reading that wrongly. I guess you are addressing me and referring to Floyd. sorry

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  24. The king of sock puppets accusing others of doing it. Two posts written 35 minutes apart is weak evidence.

    Certainly nothing like your past chronic posts to sfschools (before you got booted off for sock puppeting) minutes apart from "different" people all who: post using your same writing style; write with the same arguments as you; agree with everything you say; and all who happen to have the same residential IP address as you.

    Oh, I forgot...your neighbor uses your wireless...he just happened to also post to sfschools, post to sfschools as the same time as you; and agree with everything you say.

    silly me

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  25. Busted!!!That's right - Floyd, Don, Mariah -they are all the work of Don. I ought to know.

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  26. Nobody is saying you are sock puppeting here, Don. But you did so for a LONG time on sfschools and were busted doing it. You got kicked off from the group for doing it.

    Given that, you of all people, should not be calling people out you suspect (with zero evidence) of doing it. Trying to play that down by pretending you're a target now in a half-baked attempt to suggest as untrue your past proven behavior on sfschools won't change history.

    Please just stick with your erudite and informed posts on SFUSD-related matters and dispense with going after people you suspect of being a bad netizen...which you cornered the market on long ago.

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  27. I think she used AA as Attendence Area and she is not me. Moriah, it's illegal to use race, so the district tries. The fact is, the district would absolutely love to use race. They have a '60s liberal bent, whereas I'm more of a goal-oriented liberal. Their methods are more suited to the early years of integration. They wish they could use affirmative action at Lowell, but they can't, so they say 70% will get in on pure merit, 15% based on socio-economic and alternate skill factors but really primarily socio-economic, and 15% based on underrepresented middle schools. The system they came up with is so stupid that many whites get in because they go to private schools where most people choose to go to private high school even if they get into Lowell, mostly because they want their kids in exclusive settings in my view, among their own class/income level, with the people they've been to school with for a while. So if you do go to Hamlin or Star of the Sea or St. Cecilia's and decide you want to go to Lowell, you are in the same category being rich as someone who is poor and goes to a school in the Bayview, Mission or Tenderloin.

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  28. Another stupidity is that many on food stamps, public housing, etc. are Asian and Russian, and some are not truly that poor, I've seen people pay for their groceries with foodstamps then drive a Lexus home, to me if the taxpayers are buying your food, you should be taking public transit or at the very least in an old car, but I guess I'm old fashioned and perhaps, according to some, racist even though the people I've seen doing this are often Russian. Now in addition to affording a nice car yet getting food stamps, you get a plus for it getting into Lowell.

    As for the underrepresented middle schools, Presidio made it despite having the best scores in the City one year. Also, many Asians at mostly black schools or whites at mostly Latino schools such as James Lick get in on this.

    However, it is illegal to use race.

    Part of me hopes they change this. You could set aside 10% of Lowell for black and Latino students and let 90% be merit-based and have 12-15% AA and L, whereas now it is 8.

    As for the neighborhood preference, you can't move to public housing unless you're very poor and you have to be able to prove it, plus there's a waiting list. However, the CTIP 1 zones are zones representing the poorest scores fifth of SF, so there is private housing in these zones. Bayview, the Mission, parts of SOMA, parts of the Western Addition/Fillmore, and much of the Tenderloin. Anyone could pretend to be separated and splitting custody for their eldest, rent a monthly room in parts of the Tenderloin for 6 months, and buy their way in for 4 kids, even 5, how ever many you have, if they get their eldest in, and if it feeds into a good middle school, you can do so for 9 years, times 5 kids, 45 years of education for 6 months living in a hotel once a week with methheads, crackheads, whores, junkies and drunks. Not a bad deal. And it will happen. They we just got back together and that counselling just worked wonders.

    Again, there is no way to use race but the far left board would love to, so they still try and are obsessed with race.

    It's the same in colleges. Ivy League schools say they want diversity, but you need 150 more SAT points to get in as an Asian than a white, it's a quota reminiscent of the Jewish quota of the first 3/5ths of the 20th century. The Ivy League is just 25% white Christian. Farmer's Alliance, ROTC, Chinese School, Japanese School, Christian groups, many advise you to leave these activities off your resume if you apply because they hurt your chances. I say this as an atheist, it's just a fact and can be proven.

    Those that run SFUSD leave gaping holes. I hope people take advantage so one day we get neighborhood schools, just to increase family and study time, decrease private school attendence, etc. The perverse thing about this is it has led to many so-called liberal white and Asian parents on the East side fleeing their schools, making them less diverse, to go West. You could achieve more diversity if you could use race and displace fewer if any neighborhood residents.

    In some ways Prop 209 screwed San Franciscans, though it helped whites and Asians trying to get into Cal and UCLA a lot.

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  29. Sigh. I'm going to regret jumping into the fray.

    First, I'm going to be on-topic.

    After much consideration, we decided to withdraw our round 2 application, and we're sticking to our round 1 assignment -- which was at a good school we didn't love. My reasons for not loving it have to do with my now graduated older child, and the school is changing quickly.

    Next -- semi on topic:
    PLEASE, I beg of you, Floyd and Don -- PLEASE think about people who are coming to this site to read people's answers to posted questions. This thread asks what people are doing wrt to round 2. 3 out of 30 comments related to this post. Moriah had some sort of on-topic comments. The rest? Not an answer to the original question.

    Lastly -- soapboxing of my own...
    Please do not denigrate people who receive public assistance/food stamps. Yes, some people game the system. But, a much larger number barely scrape by, and have difficulty even qualifying for benefits. For example, in SF, if you receive SSI, you CANNOT qualify for food stamps. So, you may have an income of $900, pay $650 for a tiny room in a smelly SRO in the TL, and have $250 left over for all other expenses -- food, toothpaste, tampons, etc. AND, if you are lucky enough that your income is $920, you'll have a "share of cost" for medical of $320 -- meaning you can't access medical care through Medi-Cal unless you spend more than what you have left over on medical expenses.

    As for seeing people using food stamps and then driving off in a lexus... you must be watching people REALLY carefully at the supermarket, since the way you pay with EBT is to swipe at the card reader just like someone using a debit card or a credit card. Yes, you click on "EBT" as your payment type, but you'd have to be looking over someone's shoulder to see it. It's also possible that someone is shopping for a homebound neighbor using *their* EBT card. Regardless, the fact that a handful of people game the system doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of those who access benefits (and those who try and can't) need them.

    Lastly, a room in an SRO "with methheads" would be a difficult way to access CTIP1 spots... you need a utility bill to prove residence, and people don't pay for utilities at an SRO. And, while many in the TL are "methheads, crackheads, whores, junkies and drunks" not everyone is. It's a horrible neighborhood to have to live in, and there is often a shortage of rooms (I work in community mental health and, among other things, help extremely low income adults living with mental illness secure housing.)

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You're even entitled to express them here. I just think it's an unfair use of this blog, which used to be a source of lots of *different* opinions and information from many different people about SF Public Schools. Yours are not the only voices that count, and a quick review of the posts from the last year show that intentionally or not, the repeated posts of the same information and opinions over and over and over ad nauseum have served to silence the rest of the people who might have something to say. You can argue that it's their choice (which it is) but we're a community, and if what you (or I!) do silences others, that's something to examine.

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  30. I know it bothers some people when I ask people not to feed the trolls, but do you see what happens when you respond to them? Kate, please switch to a system that makes it possible to block certain people from commenting ... please?

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  31. Spread the word to end the word: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T549VoLca_Q

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  32. People get banned from blogs and whatnot for all sorts of reasons and for no reason at all. It can be a badge of honor as is the case with dumb sites like SF Schools, which is a forum for about 10 radical people when it has any users at all. I was banned for supposedly using inappropriate language. That was the reason given in any case which seemed very strange since he had the very same day used vile and inappropriate language. The real reason was that the moderator got sick of having to debate me and as a result he decided that it would be more expedient to have me banned.

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  33. Michelle, I agree, most on food stamps deserve them and I am all for the food stamp program. I just don't think that should be the same as earning a grade or higher test score; it shouldn't give you a bump for Lowell. We're buying your food so you don't starve and you don't have a reason to say your kid couldn't do well, they and you had food.

    I may go on food stamps myself some day, if I lose my job I'd be there the next day trust me. My grandparents used them. I'm for the program. The story of the Russians in a Lexus was 10 years ago, before the cards came in. I think 90% on it deserve them, maybe 95%, this is just an example that does happen.

    SFUSD has a weird way of looking at things which is part of this debate. If you ask taxpayers for assistance due to poverty, not only do you get the assistance, you are considered more noble and deserving of any school you want so you can bump someone a block away because you are in the low income pre-school for free. Now I'm all for free pre-school for all, voted for the measure by the guy on All in the Family. I just don't think it should give you a bump for Lowell or any other school.

    As for living in the TL, once a week, you can prove it, maybe not SRO but an $800 1 BR or Studio, and there are other spots. You don't necessarily need to pay bills. You can get a letter from your landlord, cable, phone, other things.

    I don't think that's that tough. It's a lot less tough than the work to earn the money to pay for private school, and we all know the better third of public schools in SF are as good as or in some cases better than the private schools. It takes some dihonestly and deviance, but it will happen. Not everyone will do it but some will.

    As for on or off topic, we can't create topics anymore so conversations veer. It is related, then someone responds with something that's related to that, and it flows like a regular conversation. I will be more on topic if I can post my own threads or others can. Lately the threads are all about who got in where. I don't know what else we can say about this. This is largely a debate site where we have opinions and share and call raise our children better and have better schools by learning from other peoples' opinions. I've learned a lot from Moggy and others I disagree with. I have some insight and I learn from others. I think that's just par for the course. I don't think anyone has much more to say about who got in where, they will soon.

    I think the advice I gave the woman moving here from Africa will help her. She's African or AA so it will make our schools more diverse. I always found it odd that the intended affirmative action is really causing whites and Asians to abandon the AA and L kids in their neighborhoods, so a neighborhood like Bernal Heights where 35% of the kids are white has public schools which are 5-10% white, which is very bad for the kids who are left behind. That's not affirmative action. That's affirmative flight, reverse affirmative action, etc. It takes a bad problem and makes it even worse. Now you don't just have flighters and privateers but also lottery players, so you get triple flight and we don't turn the schools around.

    We need more turnarounds like McKinley. Every school could become a McKinley.

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  34. How can you learn anything from Moggy? That's weird. It has been a very rare post indeed when she offered anything more than an insult, or at best a link. This thread and the last are good examples of her "input", if you want to call it that. Her only expressed interest is in putting down others.

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  35. I'm sorry Don, perhaps I learned nothing from Moggy. I should have said I know I've seen insight and good ideas from people who generally disagree with my method of childraising and neighborhood schools philosophy and ideas on how schools should be run. Perhaps it was another poster. Moggy is pretty much just about rage and put downs, but I thought she had posted something insightful once or twice, maybe it was someone else, not Moggy.

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  37. I saw the 4-10 board meeting and a woman said she put her dream school # 1 and district #2, is middle class/white, no liberal victim plus qualifiers such as low income pre-school or CTIP1, no sibling, and she got into her #1 school over neighborhood residents who didn't get in.

    It sounds like the published criteria were not used, either intentionally or because of some big botch up in the computer system. She said she got a spot she didn't deserve.

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  38. Anytime you have the level of complexities you see in the current SAS and you coupled that with a software program that is not transparent, there will be mix-ups of the sort you described. But even worse is the fact that the Board will listen to this lady and then go right on with there business, which is the business of doing nothing. For example, take Rachel Norton tenure as commissioner: She was elected on a special ed reform platform and the special ed department has totally unraveled under her watch. Things are so bad there they may get taken over by the State CDE. She must be a bitter disappointment to those of us who hoped she would turn that department around.

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  39. @Floyd -- that's a clear example of the swap at work. Likely someone from her dream school's attendance area wanted *her* AA school, and they swapped. Works great for those in high demand attendance areas -- not so much for those of us in the SE.

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  40. I think that people should get the highest plus if they live in the area, or next to the area if they're in Clarendon or something like that. In the SE Michelle, if you are upper middle class like most on this board, your sending your child to a school in the West or a dream school is a conservative thing, not a liberal thing. It doesn't add to diversity; it reduces it. It causes more race/class segregation. Please don't bump people who are close when your going there wouldn't add to liberalism in any way. That's a perversion of why they came up with this system. Sometimes someone who lives a block from a school is bumped by someone who is the same income level but lives far away. You would cause more liberalism and integration by going to a school in the SE.

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  41. Some people are saying that it is NOT a good idea to list a trophy school that you do not want, because you might actually get it and you risk that no one trades you for it. I think they are saying that if your swap material does not get swapped, you are in a worst position than someone who got none of the schools he or she had listed in Round One.

    Do I understand this correctly?

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  43. Thanks for the encouragement. In 2011 (per SFUSD), about 40% of families with 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choices did not enroll at all - over 900 kids. Over 200 did not take their 1st choice school.

    Unfortunately, as we're expecting, many kids simply will not show up at the first day of school. So, yes, just gotta ride it out.

    For those who were not called early from private school wait lists and hoping for news, there's a big payment due on June 1. At least one seat I know will open at Claire L., as the family is taking a private choice.

    If there's one thing to help folks like us, please continue to encourage friends to notify public and private schools when other choices are made. Matters a lot.

    How many kids will feel the musical chair ripple effect of that kid passing on Claire L.? I think 6-8 may move seats around SFUSD with one pass like that.

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  44. 40%. That's pathetic, a world class City should get people taking a school. Shows the current board should be voted out and a guarantee of a good school given, neighborhood or citywide, for all. We're not keeping those with options and that is a failure.

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  45. Floyd, that is just nonsense. How can they guarantee a good school when SFUSD has 8 times the state wide rate of failing schools? You can guarantee by fiat a neighborhood school but you cannot guarantee a "good" school. You are asking for the Board to perform magic.

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  46. How would you go about firing teachers?

    My idea is that when the US Sect. of Education asks if California is able to identify it's bottom 20% of teachers, I would try to give an honest answer. I would answer that, to me, the bottom 20% or so, are the ones that are unable to teach to the test. Now, the teaching profession is much more than the skill of teaching to the test. I am just saying that is a minimum requirement.

    So I am enthusiastic about standardized exams, as an examination of whether the teacher can teach to the test.

    According to the Daniel Pink book, merit pay is not working out. He would rather we increased the base pay of all teachers.

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  47. Charlie,

    If SFUSD got rid of half the 1000 plus staff of central office workers, many of whom spend all day in meetings and have very little interaction with teachers let alone students, we could lower the class size and make teaching for success a reality. Continuing to underfeed the schools and blaming the teachers is a good strategy for management to pawn off their failings on labor.

    If you want the horse to pull you have to feed it. So don't fall for this game of holding only the teachers accountable. It is a ruse. Of course teachers have to do their jobs. But if you're going to cut the fat you don't take an arbitrary figure of 20%. You isolate the waste and you cut it and the waste is staring us in the face. Laying off staff is not solution to the education woes.

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  48. If SFUSD really wants to make it possible for low performing students to access higher performing schools, why are they not providing a preference to thousand of these underachieving students who don't happen to live in CTIP1? Everyone says that some middle class families get the benefit mistakenly and that is true to some degree, but far more low SES students, the ones that SFUSD claims to want to help, don't get the assignment system preference. So who is SFUSD really protecting? Or is it that they simply compromised the SAS to the point that the system hardly makes any sense at all?

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  49. I disagree with Daniel Pink, that's exactly what we shouldn't do and it produces complacency. You need to say you need to work for the bonus pay, not get it no matter what. That defeats the purpose if it is for all teachers, the whole point is not all teachers are the same and not all should be paid the same. I agree about laying off the central staff and reducing class size.

    As to giving preference to low test scores, that would cause people to not do well on the test on purpose. That would make the district look bad so it's a nonstarter. They will never disincentivize individual test takers.

    They always say there are creative teachers who teacher motivated learners or narrow test teachers. Nonsense. Those who do best on the test are also those who are best at extracurricular activities. Testing is a means whereby you get facts. The union and seniority would never change if all information were vague. It will only change in response to specific info.

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  50. Is the starting pay for teachers too low? That was Daniel Pink's main concern. We are losing too many people to the low salary for teachers, even counting summers off.

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  52. You can game the system by being a good STAR test taker, but mediocre otherwise. You know that. Some respectable test takers will be mediocre students. The ones who succeed, I mean really succeed not just get into a good high school and college, are not the ones who just figured out how to tweak their test scores.

    Your obsessive focus on test-taking and measurement is myopic. What about a love for the humanities, the arts, and personal growth? Does it matter to you or is it all just a competition for the best schools? Getting ahead is fine, but there's more to childhood than the plans you have hatched for your kids.

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  53. Your views make you perfect for Board of Education. Run, Floyd, Run.

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  54. My stat was ambiguous and scribbled in error. About 900+ families did not enroll in 2011. Over 40% of the 900+ got 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice. And over 200 with 1st choice did not enroll.

    Would it be better or worse to have SFUSD enrollment after all of the private school admissions are done?

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  55. Yes. People shouldn't be applying who aren't serious about it and believe in private schools.

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