Friday, March 18, 2011

Share your news! Letters are in the mailbox!

Many families have already received private school letters and will be receiving those from public schools tomorrow, Saturday. Please share your news. We have temporarily turned off registration requirements so people can easily comment and share. If things get out of hand, we'll turn the requirement back on. Thanks!

396 comments:

  1. Anyone hear from girls schools yet?

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  2. We haven't heard from one school and are goign to be away for the weekend. Is it bad form to call the school and ask, so that we can decide and free up the schools on waitlist?

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  3. got into Burke's. Know of two friends who got into Hamlin and one Convent.

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  4. We got into San Francisco School and waitlisted everywhere else.

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  5. Got into SF Day, our first choice - thrilled!

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  6. Wait listed at LO and Synergy.Any one have experience with how often they dip into that pool.

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  7. San Francisco School person -- was this for Kindergarten? Because supposedly, they had no K spots. Zero.

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  8. Waitpooled at Gateway MS.

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  9. Got into Stuart Hall and Town. Going to Stuart Hall. We released Town spot immediately.

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  10. Question: for privates. Do letters say "you're waitlisted" or "we invite you to be on our waitlist" or none of the above?

    In other words, is everyone automatically invited to be on the waitlist?

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  11. 6:54 -- I don't think so. I think there are three types of letters -- accept, waitlist, and reject (including "too young" letters). we were waitlisted at two of the schools we applied to and both specifically mentioned the waitpool (and said to call if we want to be on it).

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  12. waitlisted at Gateway MS

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  13. For privates, some schools have 3 letters. accept, waitpool, no waitpool.

    Other schools have 2 letters. accept, waitpool.

    If the denial letter does not mention a waitpool, unfortunately the file is closed. Can happen if the school feels that it is not a good match for the applicant.

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  14. accepted at Live Oak, Marin Prep, and Waldorf. Wait list at Burke's.

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  15. Accepted at Marin Prep (but no mention of our financial aid application?), wait list at Synergy and Live Oak. Too younged for Friends and CDS said no.

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  16. Waitlisted at gateway too. What's up? 100 people got offers. Where are they? Everyone I know got wait listed!

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  17. Has anyone received a rejection letter from SF Day or Brandeis?

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  18. How many people accepted can pay full freight?

    How many people asking for aid got into more than one place?

    How many people received aid?

    How many people received enough aid to give serious consideration to their offer?

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  20. This is for HS admissions, not K, so for what it's worth:

    Applied to 5 privates, applied for financial aid at each.

    Accepted at 4, wait listed at 1.

    However, only received an actual financial aid offer from 1. The other 3 accepting schools acknowledged that while we clearly qualified for aid, they didn't have enough to offer it.

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  21. 5 applications - 5 waitlists. We were also wondering if all non-accepts result in waitlist

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  22. We were accepted to 3 of 4 privates (kindergarten), and did not apply for aid. Of our friends who also got acceptances, I can't be certain but I don't think any of them applied for aid, either.

    But I also know of two other families who got waitlisted everywhere and I don't think they applied for aid, either. Again, can't be certain. It's not a question I'd ever ask someone.

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  23. Is there anyone else who got great news today but nonetheless feels sad because friends of yours did not? That is how I am feeling ... I have the biggest pit in my stomach and want to cry, even though we got multiple acceptances including our first choice. I hate this process. I am so sorry for all of you who did not get good news today.

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  24. We applied for financial aid at Synergy, CDS, and The San Francisco School. Got waitlisted at all 3. At this point it seems like "waitlisting" is just a euphemism for rejection.

    It's the 2nd year we've applied to Synergy and I (dumbly) really thought we were going to get in this time. Got same letter as last year saying that every year kids get in off the wait list -- although last year we were told there was no movement from the waitlist. Hard not to take it personally. I do wonder if applying for financial aid made it less likely we'd get in.

    Thanks for the sympathy 9:44. Pretty upset here!

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  25. Applied to 3 and got into 1 and on wait list for 2. But, I too, heard that there were 3 different letters sent out. Rejection, Wait List and Acceptance.

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  26. Actually, there are four types of letters: accept, wait list (the majority by far), reject, and "too young" (a.k.a. try again next year).

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  27. Did anyone get a waitlist letter with a hand-written note? I heard in past years, some wait-list letters had hand-written notes?

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  28. We got into our top two choices. Choice 1 was pretty clear first choice, however, choice 2 offered financial aid and choice 1 did not. It is a good problem to have, but the decision is now much harder.

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  29. I did. It doesn't matter I guess because we got our first choice. Girl SF slot mcds. Gave up the other two spots at sf day and burke's right away. We did not apply for aid. Good luck all. Process is very difficult.

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  30. Got into Friends, waitlisted at CAIS, Live Oak and SFDS. Friends was our first choice so we are excited!

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  31. We were accepted to Marin Prep but after reading the letter I am unclear how much I would be obligated to pay if we get a public school option tomorrow that we like and decide to go there. The letter makes it sound like you are on the hook for the entire 1st year of tuition. Can anyone clarify how this works?

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  32. We got an acceptance with a hand written note attached - is this usual?

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  33. From prior years, how likely is it to get off a wait list at Friends? anyone know their "yield number" (the number of accepted students who actually enroll? I had been wishing for this school. Everyone remember - there is no such thing as a 'perfect' school!!
    we should all celebrate the end of a long season.

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  34. To all of you that got in to Lafayette today....Lafayette's Silent Auction is tonight (Sat. March 19) from 6:30-11:30 at the Janet Pomeroy Center at 2 Skyline Blvd. We would love for you to join us. Ticket price is $30 at the door but we would like to extend our early bird special to any incoming parents if you bring your assignment letter with you. It's a great way to get introduced to our community. There will be live music, a D.J.,great food, amazing auction items both Silent and Live and a cash bar ($5/drink). Please come on by and join us!!

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  35. Waitlisted at both schools we applied to. One waitlist letter had personalized notes from 2 members of the admissions team - any significance?

    Anyone else hear that it was a harder year for boys?

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  36. 12:24 -- YES! That is of huge significance. Make sure you let them know you are hanging tight for them! Work the phones! Pull out the stops! Crossing my fingers for you.

    11:36 - we got handwritten notes on two of our three acceptances (second and third choices). One seemed personal and one seemed generic. I have no idea if this is usual but I had not heard of this before, whereas I had heard about handwritten notes on waitlist letters. Our acceptance from our first choice did not have a handwritten note. Maybe because they knew we would accept?

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  37. 12:34 - the handwritten note was from the AD at SF Day. Were yours the same or from other schools?

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  38. 12:45 - no, they were from different schools. I would prefer not to say which ones, except that the personalized one was from a single gender school.

    Congrats on SF Day!! Are you going to accept?

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  39. Waitpooled for both sf day (with a handwritten note) and friends. No word from creative arts charter yet. Fingers crossed for publics as we would be a FA family and free is very, very sexy. Two questions: when do waitpool phone calls start? If you enroll at a public can you change your mind and drop out (to take another school public or private)?

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  40. Handwritten notes on acceptances and waitlist letters - 2 girls schools and 2 coeds. Maybe its the norm.

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  41. Any handwritten the boys wl Town or SH or cathedral.

    None on ours but high priority on cathedral

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  42. Acceptance letters from Presidio Hill and Marin Prep. Waitpool from SF Day (with hand written note) and Friends

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  43. @8:14 a.m. I don't mean to burst your bubble regarding Cathedral and the "High Priority Waitlist." We were on it last year, and based on the encouraging wording of the letter honestly believed that we would be accepted ultimately. We were not. Now that we are at another school, I have heard of at least 5 other families who were also on the "High Priority Waitlist," none of which were ultimately accepted. I do know that Cathedral accepted two students from the waitlist last year. As I said, I don't mean to burst your bubble and you may indeed be the very first family on the waitlist, but just know that the "High Priority" waitlist isn't as exclusive as they lead you to believe. I'm sorry.

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  44. @9:43

    Thank you for you insight. Really Really helpful.

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  45. We received a wait pool letter from Cathedral - but doesn't indicate "high priority waitlist". It also said to contact the AD if we want to stay on the wait pool until September.

    It looks like we're in the general wait pool instead of "high priority" (since it doesn't say "high priority"), why would they even offer us this option? Esp since they only took 2 boys from the waitlist last year? Why not just out-and-out reject us? So frustrating...

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  46. Got into WPL a while ago, wait listed at St. Cecelia's. For public, we got Miraloma!!!

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  47. Mail arrived this morning with nothing from SFUSD. It will be a long weekend. It's the never ending application process...

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  48. Mail just came. We got Roosevelt MS, our first choice. Phew! Good luck to everyone.

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  49. 9:43 a.m. What is especially troubling regarding the "High Priority" waitlist is that I've only spoken to 12 other families about Cathedral. Odd that 5 out of the 12 families were on the "High Priority" waitlist. Last year when we got our letter we guessed that there were 3-5 families on that list. Based on anecdotal evidence, it seems like it's much larger.

    One more thing for those on the Cathedral waitlist. Cathy Madison has a policy which includes NOT responding to voicemails or emails, so please do not be disappointed if you don't hear back and don't take it personally (like we did until we started talking to others).

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  50. 10:36

    Did you talk to 12 family this year about Cathedral.

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  51. Mail just came, got into Grattan. First choice, neighborhood school.

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  52. @10:36, my information pertains to people's experiences with the application last year (2010). I have no firsthand information from this year. Good luck to everyone, whether applying to public or private.

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  53. Got our second choice, Daniel Webster SI. We also have a private acceptance in hand, with a financial aid package we may or may not be able to work with - if we can we will likely give up the space.

    I guess the question is do you give pints and pints of your blood for private? Or go with a local school with a good parent community even if the SF schools look to be completely savaged by funding cuts?

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  54. One handwritten note encouraging us to go on the wait list. If this is the norm for this school then I feel even more disappointed. Reading it set my hopes up that maybe we really have a chance of getting in off the list. But not now learning that many others received a similar note.

    Also wonder if applying for aid hurt us.

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  55. Our son got into PK4 (transitional K) at French American International and we accepted the spot. He was eligible for K at the Lycee and we applied there too, but have heard nothing yet. I was told they only have 2 K spots (and we are not French nationals so slim chance there). Letter for public K enrollment not here yet. Curious to see our public assignment as we are in the low test score area. But we did not list one of the very popular, over subscribed schools first so should get first choice I think.

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  56. 11:01 -- Just got into Grattan (neighborhood school) also. Now to decide between it and privates -- wonder if we can tour publics during silent week?

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  57. If you are unsure about your public/private decision, I'd suggest calling PPS and asking to speak with a parent ambassador at whatever schools you're considerng. I doubt the schools will be holding tours this week. Grattan is holding a tour for incoming families April 8.

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  58. applied for 4th grade at Nueva and waitlisted. waiting for public letter to see if we got into Clarendon.

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  59. Did anyone else get a "too young" from Town?

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  60. 11:09 AM, yes, applying for aid hurt you. I am so heartbroken right now, looking at our slew of waitlist letters and one other family who applied for aid and got nothing but waitlist letters. The families I know who did not apply for aid got in, including families who hid the fact that they would need aid after a year.

    Our PSD confirmed it -- this was a terrible year for anyone needing aid, and he is heartbroken too. He said that the numbers make it quite clear what the differences are. I feel like what we should have done was not apply for aid, but then accept a spot, pay for a year, and show the real situation. Maybe that's just inethical? Or is that the smart way to go?

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  61. GRATTAN ATTENDANCE AREA. GRATTAN FIRST CHOICE SCHOOL. NOT ASSIGNED TO GRATTAN. ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  62. In at Burkes, Friends, SF Day, Marin Prep

    "waitlisted" at Hamlin and Live Oak

    SFUSD assignment - John Muir - a disaster/joke! Worst school in the city and we are in the Grattan attendance area.

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  63. In reply to 11:07 AM, though public schools are strapped, and as a heavily involved parent and community activist I struggle with it, my daughter who is in DW SI 1st grade is thriving there, has had excellent teachers on all fronts. She doesn't come home talking about budget deficits--in fact all she says is how much she LOVES her school. In the end for me that is the ultimate testament to what really matters.

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  64. 12:27 I am so sorry.

    I really understand why parents on this list do not register at John Muir given its history. I know this assignment is upsetting. I only ask that we all refrain from phrases like "disaster" and "worst school in the city." There is a community there and a new, hard-working principal who are trying very, very hard to improve this school. A lot of hard work is being done. It is certainly not a magnet for middle class and professional families, I'm not suggesting that, only that we give their efforts some respect. It is enough to say, it is not the right school for my family.

    Thanks for the consideration....I know these are gut reactions. I'm still waiting for our (high school) letter as our mail doesn't come till late afternoon.

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  65. With inclusion in our IEP, we got NONE of our 6 K choices. Instead offered Glen Park.

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  66. I live not far from Glen Park Elementary and have been noticing a demographic shift based on the cars dropping off in the morning. Maybe that's an indicator of a school on the move.

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  67. Waitlisted (K) at Live Oak, Synergy, Presidio Hill, SF School (though this doesn't seem real because they didn't interview us); not accepted or waitlisted at Friends. Waiting for public school assignment...it really bothers me to read about applying for financial aid as influencing whether a private school spot is offered. It's not supposed to be that way.

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  68. Yes, Glen Park is changing. Perhaps someone who is there will post...there is a group of active families. Urge you to check it out.

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  69. 12:11PM, I don't think it's unethical to apply or not to apply for financial aid -- seems they can offer it to you or not, and if you don't apply for it the first year but do the next, they will again evaluate whether or not to offer you aid (although I guess they might want to see the difference in your incomes from the first year to the 2nd...).

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  70. Got in to Alta Vista, Aid TBD.
    Assigned Glen Park, 9th out of 10 on my list but not disappointed. I really do think this is a "school on the rise" with the current parent involvement, top to bottom remodel, schoolyard greening and new neighborhood assignment model. Will go to AVS if the aid is right but like the back up option.

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  71. We applied to 4 independents and are waitlisted at 3 and accepted to one with ZERO aid offered. I just wanted to share since people seem to be wondering the effect and outcome re: request for aid. I am assuming that it will keep us from getting a call on the other waitlists. It's always a bad year to request aid. BUT, I have friends who can afford tuition and received all waitlists, so it's hard to tell. Hang in there!

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  72. No at FAIS. Waitpool @ SF Day.

    In at Claire Lilienthal, our first choice !

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  73. Hillcrest - not on our list.

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  74. Hayes Valley is now SFUSD CTIP area. 4 friends I talked to got into their first choice schools. I wonder what it is going to do to rents and home prices.

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  75. Anyone know how many K openings were at FAIS and/or CAIS? I just can't remember! I thought Hamlin had like 25 spots but their wait pool letter says they had 6 applicants for every spot, so it couldn't have been that many openings? Trying to do some wait pool math.

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  76. 1:17, what was your list? Did it include your neighborhood school? Trying to figure out how results are same or different under this system.

    Btw Hillcrest is a sweet school with very, very dedicated staff. Charlie Phan was just over there cooking! Its population is very working class, though, not many middle class families, which often a dealbreaker for folks here. But just to say the folks there (families and staff) are great.

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  77. We missed out on our attendance area school (Alvarado). Got assigned to Glen Park. Not sure how much change can happen there until the current principal retires, and I'm not sure we want to be leading the charge on a turnaround anyway. (We have friends at Junipero Serra this year, and it doesn't sound like that has gone very well). We're seriously considering a move to the 'burbs. Unfortunately, today's news may have made that move a little more likely.

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  78. Got in at FAIS (no aid), but waitlisted at three girls and MCDS. Has anyone received a handwritten waitpool letter from Hamlin? Friend of ours got that and was wondering if that means anything at all. We had applied for aid too. Could this be why?

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  79. Went 0/6 in public lottery. Got John Muir.. Put Clarendon #1 and it was our assigned neighborhood school. Guess that didn't help much.

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  80. Got Ortega. Will definitely amp up our move out of the city.

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  81. It looks like Clarendon is one of the most pressured areas under the new plan. Not so much Alamo & Sunset, for example--there your shot is good if you live there. Having Clarendon as your attendance area does mean you have a *shot* at it--which is more than non-CTIP1, non-sibling, non-attendance-area families have under the new system. But it is so crowded that it is still not great odds.

    I'm sorry.

    No new system can accommodate the fact that everyone wants the same few schools.

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  82. Didn't get any of the 5 public schools we listed. Assigned to Cesar Chavez. Will likely keep son in pre-school another year and try again next year.

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  83. Went 0/9 and also assigned to Muir.

    SFUSD can suck it. We are headed to private.

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  84. Alright, who kidnaped my mail carrier?? Still waiting...

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  85. ok, so did anyone else NOT get their SFUSD letter in the mail today? all of our neighbors seem to have rec'd but we are in the dark until monday...

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  86. Got DW SI, our second choice. Very happy. With the greatly increased neighborhood interest/presence there, API scores that went up 100 points last year, and the preschool getting a new campus and now taking kids from birth to pre-K and serving as a true 'feeder' into the ES, I'm really excited to see how this school will improve in the near future. Ready to roll up my sleeves and contribute to the effort.

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  87. SFUSD assigned our K to Guadalupe. Not even one of our top 10 and 2 miles away from our home. Going with our private acceptance.

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  88. Grattan attendance area.
    Attended sfusd CDC at sf public Montessori
    1. Grattan
    2. Clarendon jbbp
    3. Clarendon ge
    4. Sf public Montessori

    Received Grattan.

    (I know attending a different CDC did not help us get grattan)

    Our slice of neighborhood was originally drawn as Clarendon, then shifted to grattan.

    The data suggests grattan local attendance area tie breaker much stronger than Clarendon.

    Good luck, everybody.

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  89. Alvarado attendance area. Got J. Serra, our 9th choice. Relieved to get one of our choices but still hoping for immersion in the next round.

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  90. 1:58, your perspective & decision, of course, but Ortega is a pretty nice school that you might want to check out before making a big move.

    2:00, congrats for having a private backup. the families at Muir are not so lucky as to even consider private options, but they are working very hard this year and please let's respect that. thanks.

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  91. Letter just arrived - got Alamo, our attendance area and 1st choice so happy

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  92. 1:58:
    Have you visited Ortega? My child goes there and is very happy. You might want to first tour the school before you plan a move. It's possible you could be pleasantly surprised. Good luck to everyone.

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  93. Went 0/7; got John Muir.

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  94. Hamlin acceptance, Burkes waitlisted. Applied & received aide.

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  95. we got Sunnyside, next to last choice and not our attendance area. We'll be holding out for a spot in immersion.
    Anyone got JOES Mandarin? That was our top choice... Starr King Mandarin second.

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  96. I'm the original Ortega commenter. It might have tulips growing by the door BUT: it's 5 miles from our house. It starts at 7:50 am (and we have 3 other children of various ages, plus our full time jobs that we have to commute to). Also this is really the last straw: this is the second child who didn't get any of his K requests, AND we have a special needs child, which is a whole 'nother struggle with the district. Y'all are welcome to keep up the battle, someone has to, but we're done.

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  97. I'm really sorry, 2:40.

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  98. Ran into the mailman in the lobby of our small building. It was my fourth trip to the mailbox.

    Got into Jose Ortega. It was #4 in my list. Not my attendance area school.

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  99. We got Sunset ES, our first choice, we're very happy.

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  100. If you're willing, it would be interesting if
    those folks saying "0/7" etc would share their lists.. Were those 7 all the "trophy" schools? Or did lists including good non-trophy options (eg a Lakeshore) also end up with 0/7 because spots at those schools were all filled with attendance area kids?

    We got Sloat, our attendance area school and first choice.

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  101. Aptos - 1st choice - phew!

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  102. 15:00: Public, We got our 2nd choice, Sherman. Private, We got accepted to our 2nd & 4th choice. Applied for aid across the board, but didn't receive any.

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  103. We've been told by school principals that there is a shortage of bilingual kids.

    Our child is bilingual -- he tested fluent in spanish and english. The first six schools on our list were spanish immersion programs plus our neighborhood school.

    We did not get spanish immersion or our neighborhood school. We got our 9th choice. Sunnyside.

    I honestly don't know how anyone can say the system works if our bilingual kid can't get into a bilingual program.

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  104. My daughter is at Ortega in kindergarten and we LOVE it. Worth checking out. You'd be surprised. Plus if anyone's child is special needs, they have amazing special needs staff and an inclusion program.

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  105. Ortega's Principal received KQED & Union Bank's 2011 Black History Month Local Hero Award and SFUSD's 2010-11 Administrator of the Year award. She is a rock star! Ortega is a small and friendly school that sits on top of a hill with a beautiful ocean view. Brooks Park is behind the school and is explored by the students weekly. The teachers are very dedicated and it has an active parent community. Take a look at Ortega's website to view the school and KQED's videos. http://joseortegaschool.org

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  106. Got SI at Paul Revere, our 5th choice. Hear Bernalites love it. New principal is impressive (but so was the last one), and lots of SIG funding. Classrooms, computers, and library seem a-ok and am told teachers are good and incredibly dedicated. Wish the playground were bigger/more green (we can work on the greening, but not the physical size), and I'm concerned about the availability of after-care (on a January tour, I was told that current on-site care is reserved for those with great academic need, though the school was working on other on-site options ... fingers crossed they'll bring in GLO!). Not having after-care would be a deal-breaker for us.

    Anyway, good luck to you all. Peninsula and East Bay schools have their troubles too; I know plenty of parents who stress in the 'suburbs' just as much as we do. : }

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  107. Live next to Grattan school (could only be closer if we pitched a tent in the school-yard) assigned Sanchez Elementary! This seems pretty odd.

    We only placed Grattan on the list as presumed would at least have a slight chance as every other school would be over-subscribed.

    Does anyone know anything about Sanchez??

    We were offered John Muir last year in the previous system.

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  108. VERY upset - didn't get any of our choices and assigned to Sheridan. In full disclosure, we had five popular schools on our list - and just one less popular one - but I was wrongly hoping that geography might help us out. We live a block away from one of the "trophy" ones (though it wasn't our first choice).

    Luckily our daughter is quite young. We'll be doing pre-K at her preschool and crossing our fingers for better "luck" next year.

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  109. For all those who applied to SFUSD, check out the Parents for Public Schools website, http://www.ppssf.org/Enrollment.html for tips on what to do next -- whether you got your 1st choice or not. Remember, the Student Assignment process is not over until August.

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  110. My son got into our top pick school - Sutro Elementary - which is a few blocks from our house. Alamo was the one for our "district" and was our #2. He will be attending Kindergarten.

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  111. i'm the commenter from 2:47. lakeshore and sloat was my #1 & #2 respectively. sherman was #3 only because of its proximity to my office. still pretty happy getting into Ortega but will have to convince my DH. (he wants the Catholic school backup).

    Good Luck everyone!

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  112. We got Grattan! Our top choice and our attendance area school. We went 0/3 on privates and will definitely accept our spot. It seems like everyone on this list is in the Grattan area and vying for a spot. It's such a crap shoot.

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  113. No letter today - AGGHHH. The suspense is killing me.

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  114. Our bilingual kid (tested 100 percent in spanish and english) went 0 for 7 and got assigned John Muir.

    Another family going private.

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  115. A handwritten note on a waitlist letter is significant. It means you are in the running if any spots open up.

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  116. 0/13
    I'm so pissed! I live in the South East, so I had no tie breakers going for me. I know my chances were tough, but seriously 0/13?

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  117. 3:34, no it does not. SF Day, for instance, seems to have attached a hand-written note to all waitlist letters. A lovely touch, but hardly an indicator of promise. I think that they simply cannot say who might get in off the waitlist till they see who does not accept, period.

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  118. I got my SFUSD School assignment for my son going to kindergarten. It made no sense. It is not our neighborhood school nor a school we put on our list. Now what?

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  119. Anyone else get McCoppin!?!

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  120. Anyone else get McCoppin!?!

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  121. Anyone out there who got handwritten note from Hamlin waiting on a wait pool? And anyone who got accepted to Hamlin giving up there spot for other school? Trying to understand what we should do next.

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  122. We got our first choice, in our attendance area: Sloat. We put ten schools on our list, only one "trophy school" (Miraloma) and almost all in very near proximity to our house. We also had various immersion programs (also near to house).

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  123. Anyone else in a CP1T1 area NOT get their first choice?

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  124. For what it's worth, we were waitlisted at sfd w/out a handwritten note so if yours had one, it ought to mean something.

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  125. Got our #1 out of 6. CIS at De Avila. Could not be happier or more surprised

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  126. west portal GE
    first choice, attendence area
    very very happy!

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  127. Got into McKinley, our 3rd choice, waitlisted at Synergy.

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  128. Put 16 schools on our list. Top choice was Jose Ortega, and there were a couple of trophies on the list (Clarendon, Rooftop) but most were what we considered "reachable" schools in the SE section of town. Child tested fluent for Mandarin and English. Got ZERO. Assigned to Sheridan. Waitlist time...

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  129. Got into Glen Park, our assignment school. We listed 9 citywide schools in front of it, but did not get into any of them.

    Also got into CAC, so trying to figure out what to do here. CAC is pretty far for us.

    Can I accept CAC and still enter the May round?

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  130. I'm in CTIP 1 and didn't get my first choice. But it was Buena Vista and BV had the highest # (or %age, can't remember) of CTIP 1 applicants who put it as their 1st choice. I looked at the #s, and if I had put Clarendon #1, I would have gotten it based on # of sibs and CTIP 1 applicants who put Clarendon as their 1st choice. I'm kicking myself a bit, but I went for location/ease of lifestyle over trophy school (and a 30 min commute each way). We'll see if it was a wise choice next year. I'm torn right now.

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  131. In a CTIP 1 area, did not get first choice. Not surprised as that was Alvarado SI and is likely in very high demand by English-speaking CTIP 1 people like us. We got our #2 choice, Daniel Webster SI. Or maybe it was #3? I can't remember. I was surprised to get any immersion at all!

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  132. Craziness of this system: applied for 1st and 4th grade, got Rooftop, our third choice, for 4th grade! Got John Muir for 1st grade. I wonder what our chances are for getting our younger one into Rooftop in further rounds.

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  133. 4:05 - your chances are great!! Congratulations! Your 1st grader should get sibling priority in subsequent rounds since your 4th grader is now in at Rooftop

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  134. 0/5 in lottery. Alamo, Sunset 1st & 2nd Choice. Mccoppin Attendance area. Peabody & Sutro within blocks. Assigned Rosa Parks? SFUSD promoting neighborhood schools?

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  135. "Can I accept CAC and still enter the May round?"

    I assume CAC=Creative Arts Charter? It's a separate lottery system, so yes, you can still enter the May round. In fact, if you enroll at any assigned SFUSD school (whether it was one you requested or not), you also can still enter the May round.

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  136. In CTIP1 area, put Miraloma first and got it. We feel very fortunate. Living on a block with multiple homicides this year finally has its upside.

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  137. 4:01 Your child tested fluent in Mandarin and didn't get into JOES? Sounds like you would have a good chance on next round.

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  138. Got Sutro, our 5th choice and our neighborhood school (one block from our house). We will try to upgrade from our list in the next rounds, but we're OK if Sutro ends up being the one. I wonder if we would have even got Sutro under the previous system...

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  139. For our middle schooler, we are relieved to have gotten our second choice -- Hoover. However, we are still considering going into the second round chasing after our first choice Aptos. It would take our daughter 15 minutes or so on 1 muni bus to get there. To Hoover, it's 2 buses, or a bus + lightrail to get there, and probably close to 45 minutes. I think in all the defending schools talk, people forget that logistics can be a powerful factor, especially for those of us who take public transit. I'm lucky that my daughter is mature and responsible and can take Muni to many parts of the city, but if she were in k, for example, and I had to take her to the sunset via muni from bernal and then get myself to work... It couldn't be done.

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  140. I have a question for everyone: how many people were influenced by the proposed middle school feeder patterns when choosing a public K-5 school ?

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  141. 4:10 PM, why didn't you list McCoppin as a choice? I am surprised you didn't get in anyway though. Did McCoppin fill up? Did you have your correct address on your application?

    4:13, thanks for info.

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  142. Any thoughts on the Town WL? Did Lynn write anyone a note?

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  143. Does anyone know if all the same tiebreakers are used for second round?

    We got Harvey milk, 9th on our list. We did not get to tour it so would love any insights.

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  144. If your child tested fluent for Mandarin or Spanish, I would talk to the district to make sure there was not an error

    Sounds like an error if you tested fluent for Mandarin and did not get a spot.

    With respect to Spanish - it sounds very surprising that you did not get any spot with multiple immersion schools listed.

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  145. we are in Hayes Valley as well and are CTIP and got our first choice, Claire L

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  146. Cobb.

    Not even on our list. Do any white families get anything?

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  147. 4:01 again here. Fluent Mandarin kid who didn't get into JOES or Starr King. (Thanks for the sympathy, 4:13) Does being fluent help in the waitlist process? We were under the impression that they were undersubscribed for native speakers so it helped initially, but once those spots are taken (i.e. after round 1), I'm assuming all kids are equal from here forward?

    Still in shock that we went 0 for 16...

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  148. Aptos!!!! "No. 1" is extremely excited. Hoping to hear from friends, Donna

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  149. 0/5, assigned to Cobb (not on our list). Sigh.

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  150. 4:32, check out the district statistics posted yesterday. Offers at several schools, including Clarendon, Grattan, New Traditions and others are majority white (although white families are in the minority in applications overall in the district). You just got unlucky, or put too many popular schools and not enough moderately ones, or a combination of the above. The over-subbed schools REALLY ARE over-subbed and no assignment system can change that. Did you list your attendance area school?

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  151. Our List

    1) Fairmount SI
    2) Rooftop
    3) Alvarado SI
    4) Monroe SI
    5) Buena Vista SI
    6) Flynn SI
    7) SF Community

    We got our #4 (Monroe SI) and are quite happy. It is 3 blocks from our house. Our attendance area school is Cleveland which was not an option. The deposit we put down for our catholic school backup was well worth it. Excited to be accepted in the immersion program. Only tie breaker in our favor was apparently that Cleveland attendance area was high density area.

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  152. Got wait pool from Presidio Hill (with handwritten note); got Gateway MS and Francisco MS, our hood school and first and only choice. Twin girls, btw. Torn between community at Franisco and start-up uncertainties (and commute) at Gateway, which will have 4th floor of John Muir elementary for year one.

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  153. Donna, welcome to Aptos! There will be a welcome letter going out soon, and several events upcoming--hope to see you there.

    Check out www.aptostigers.com and also the yahoogroups listserve.

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  154. Unhappy with getting our last choice and want to try again for my top 3 choices. What if I don't enroll my kid in my received one but opt for the May rounds and lose out on that too? fall between chairs and have no spots anywhere?

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  155. 4:37, go with Francisco--an up-and-coming school with no commute! Nice community.

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  156. 4:38, that is correct. Better to enroll and have something than nothing--unless you have a well-thought out plan B such as moving, Catholic, etc. Some people wait it out with nothing and try after school has started, but that is a dice roll. So it all depends on how comfortable you are with *nothing*.

    Advice--call the parent ambassador at your assigned school, and check it out, before saying no (not knowing what it is....).

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  157. People concerned about Muir. If, in the end your child is placed there, don't lose hope.

    My child attends a SIG school and it has been a good experience - more money, evolving attention to the high achievers along with the intervention to the low achievers, math and literacy specialists are making huge differences.

    but, if you feel the school is not a fit after a few months, and you are not willing on taking on the rewarding task of helping to turn around a school - trust me, giving kids that do not have someone to say, " i care " is mutually rewarding - then you have an out.

    1st out is before middle of December you will be able to transfer to any school with an opening under the PI rules. All children are given flyers about the program through the months the option is active.

    2nd out is to move, obviously. You are able to move to a school with an opening at that moment you sit with the counselor.

    3rd out is to wait out the year in what will actually be a very wonderful year for your child. Then, transfer via the lottery in 1st grade. I am not sure if you are able to pick any school or to try for language immersion tracks. My understanding is that children are able to transfer into language programs via a waiting list at the beginning of the year, then once the list is over, the child will have to wait until 1st grade. Can someone correct me if i am wrong here?

    I have known families that were on wait lists at SI GE combo schools for a few months and were transferred into SI. But you have to be on the wait list at the beginning of the year!! when children were pulled out of SI and placed into GE or they left the school entirely, because a lot of these families are nomadic, it opens spots for waitlisters.

    I have heard 1st grade immersion spots open at a lot of schools, but i doubt that they do at the very well performing schools.

    I just want to give a little hope to those assigned to Muir and some experiences from the grapevine...

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  158. Waitlist @ SF Day. Got a handwritten note. Anyone with a boy not accepting a spot?!?

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  159. 4:10, did you not like McCoppin, your neighborhood school? I bet you would have gotten it under the new system. If you didn't list it, well, the system sends you to the nearest one with openings....hard to get into Sunset or Alamo given strong demand from families already in their assignment areas--that is the downside of neighborhood schools if you don't like yours.

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  160. Went 0/6 public. Waitlisted at SF Day (with a note - please tell me that means something) and Sf Friends. Got into CAC so we will take that for now and go right back to holding our breath. It's going to be a long summer for some of us.

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  161. 4:01 Fluent Mandarin kid - you should talk to someone at the EPC right away. It's got to be a mistake that you didn't get a seat in either Mandarin program. Starr King has never filled up their Mandarin speaker seats on the first round. There have been similar problems with the round 1 assignments for native Mandarin speakers for the last several years and the families were able to get it corrected by talking to a counselor at the EPC.

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  162. To answer the question of the middle school feeder system and how it affected decisions...

    We came into SFUSD late August 2010. I narrowed down my choices for ES based on what was rumored to be the upcoming feeder system -- nabbed a spot at a school slated for Aptos (no longer slated there, btw.)
    Then the plan was postponed (and the destination school changed...)

    When I do the K lottery next year I'll probably consider the feeder destination, but it seems like things change so quickly, in 6 years the whole system could be different.

    My reading of the "feeder" system is that it serves as a tie breaker as well, and isn't really a feeder, per se.

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  163. I remember something about opting out of a lower performing school under NCLB. I believe Don was the source.

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  164. @ 4.01. -- thanks. Our spanish/english bilingual tested kid did not get into an immersion program even though 5 of the first 6 on our list were SI. We will talk to EPC to make sure there were no errors.

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  165. Hey 3:29 Welcome to Grattan - your neighborhood school!!!

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  166. 12:15 pm - Get yourself down to EPC and figure out how to get yourself into Grattan. Lots of families that apply to Grattan also apply to private school. I am sure that some of them will go private - just keep your cool but be relentless. Every year their are families that wait it out through the summer that are able to get in.

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  167. 1:26, Felt like I was reading our exact reaction! We missed out on our attendance area school (Alvarado) and got assigned Glen Park as well. We feel exactly the same way as you and feel it has tipped the scale in moving to the 'burbs. I'm looking for houses as I type. Sounds like minimal locals got into Alvarado. How can that foster a local community feel?

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  168. After 3 years of applying, finally got our top choice- stevenson for 2nd grade for the older currently at lakeshore, I still cant believe it. Now of course we have to continue the saga with our second- who got lakeshore (through sibling priority) for kinder. We will wait list stevenson for the second and if all fails, put him in pre-K another year, he has a fall birthday and we are not sure if he is ready in any case. To all the parents who did not get their choice this time, my very best wishes. We got our choice by working very very patiently with the system...

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  169. Got into Argonne, second choice, neighborhood school.

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  170. 5:09 - Getting yourself down to EPC is not going to do anything. Everyone has to go through the rounds. Forms are due for the next round April 15.

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  171. @5:14 We also went the retries path with one of our kids and it eventually worked, but it can be pretty miserable for the years while you wait.

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  172. We got into Alamo. It was our third choice. Happy and relieved. Still going to try and get into first choice school in the second round--but happy with where we are at.

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  173. Lowell!!! Celebrating tonight.

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  174. Middle School Lottery:

    Just got our letter -

    We went 0 for 7 during the elementary lottery almost 6 years ago.

    Today, we were placed in our first choice Middle School - HOOVER.

    Sometimes the system drives you insane with anger and sometimes you win.

    We would like to think that karma is paying us back for the hell we went through during the original elementary process.

    We have another child in second grade and will have to potentially live through this at least 2 more times.

    -Current Commodore Sloat / Future Hoover Parents

    Keep calm - Carry on

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  175. CTIP1 family here. We got into Buena Vista. Very surprised, and very happy. It was our first choice, followed by Marshall, Fairmount, Alvarado SI....

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  176. 41 sibs at CL and AFY? Seriously?

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  177. In at Alta Vista - our 1st choice - so happy!

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  178. Inglesider -

    Curious - was Commodore Sloat what you were assigned to after you went 0/7? Do you like it now?

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  179. If students living outside of Grattan could not get in unless they were siblings, CTIP1, or preK, that is the meaning of local preference. No apologies.

    If even the students living inside the Clarendon assignment area could not get in unless they were siblings or preK, the Clarendon assignment area needs to shrink.

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  180. 0/10.
    Jose Ortega. Kicking myself for not putting our attendance area school (W Portal) first.

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  181. Private school theaders: We did not get a note on our wait pool ltr from SFDS or Hamlin and I know that we are not high on the Hamlin list, so could mean something. THAT BEING SAID, I am in hiring at a highly sought after place and I write a little note on reject letters to people who know someone at my company to be polite. So, if you had someone seemingly connected speak for you, it could be a polite addition to your wait pool letter. But it still has to mean better??

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  182. 2 private acceptances (both East Bay schools) - but neither with nearly enough fin. aid offered to make it remotely possible for us, alas. Had to say no, which sucked.

    3 private waitlists, all with sweet handwritten notes, which is nice. The chances of any of those 3 offering a spot with even close to as much aid as we qualify for/really need? I'm guessing minimal. Sigh.

    SFUSD: 4th choice, SF Community, which we've since cooled on. Planning to try again in May round for a school we're more excited about.

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  183. I'm in the Grattan neighborhood area, and listed it first. Didn't get that, or any of the other schools on our list. 0/8, with an undesirable assignment, both academically and logistically for us. Did get into one of our top choice privates, though, and glad to have an option.

    I hate to say it, but this is why so many SF kids are in private school.

    Congrats to those who had better luck in the new lottery!

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  185. Blogger cntaylor27 said...

    The only "trophy school" I put on the list was Alvarado. I live between Cobb and New Traditions and put both on our list. I didnt get any school on the list. We were put in Sanchez, which is a long bus ride from my house and my other son's school. Agghhh. I cant even escape Unified because I am a sfusd teacher.

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  186. Anyone with multiple private acceptances (or a great public assignment) willing to share what K spots they might be releasing next week? Boy/girl? Those of us on wait lists would appreciate any info we can get over this nail biter of a weekend!!

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  187. Lawton. Listed as our #2.

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  188. To Michelle Smith: You are a thoughtful good mom and you are right! We need to work harder to make all of our public schools good and make it manageable for kids to go to a neighborhood school any spot in the City. We are about to pay through the nose for a private school because our neighborhood public is one of the worst performing and I can't do it. I wish I could help turn it around, but it's just not realistic in my working mom life. Best of luck to your daughter and all the rest of us working/middle class families trying to survive in SF!

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  189. Re: 5:50 PM
    "0/10. Jose Ortega. Kicking myself for not putting our attendance area school (W Portal) first."

    I thought the order of choices did not matter. So regardless of whether you listed WP 1st or 10th, the outcome would have been the same. Is that not correct?

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  190. We got our 11 of 11 choice, our neighborhood school (Guadalupe). We really only put it down as a backup, so we weren't assigned to another school we didn't want. Now that I've read the stats, I see that our son had basically no chance of making it into any of the city-wide programs, because we do not qualify for the density tie-breaker -- when 66% percent of all applicants do. That puts us at the bottom of the bottom for immersion and Rooftop. It doesn't seem right someone would get a density privilege when they don't request their attendance area school as #1. This tie-breaker needs to change--seems like if program is city-wide, all students should have an equal chance to get in.

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  191. To 6:03

    We'll probably be releasing spots at Burke's, Friends and Marin Prep. Still in analysis mode but thats how its looking.

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  192. We released a Town spot yesterday.

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  193. I'm not sure I get it, but that would be insane?? Many of the density area schools are neighborhoods that are not "low performing" etc, so why would they get preference over someone else at a citywide school?

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  194. 4:24 I think people were very influenced by the proposed middle school feeder at our school (Miraloma.) Unlike previous years where people looked around more, a number of families looked at Aptos, thought it was fine and listed it as their first choice. They looked at other schools too, but were predisposed to pick Aptos. Normally supply has been about even with demand (people even looked at data from the previous year) so that seemed like a reasonable decision. But without the feeder actually in place, it backfired with over 500 families listing it as their first choice for only 300 slots.

    Also I think a lot of people who were geographically convenient to both Hoover and Aptos picked Aptos because Hoover is under construction right now. Also, while Aptos has an honors program, it is much more flexible than Hoover's, so more kids are able to access it.

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  195. 6:07:

    I'm not sure. I thought it didn't matter, that's why we didn't list it first. We went for an immersion and a K8 before attendance area. I have heard nice things about JOES. 0/10 is just disappointing.

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  196. 4:42
    this is 4.38.
    I did tour the school I was assigned to and while it's not a horrible school I was also not impressed.
    The crazy advocate in me tells me to gamble gamble and wait it out and just hope that we get into the schools I consider good for my child
    I agree with you better something than nothing but what if I am really not comfortable with that choice...
    *sigh*

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  197. Seems like they used Ortega as an overflow school. It was undersubscribed by it's neighborhood.

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  198. i'm confused about the Ortega threads...4:01 PM says they had Ortega on their list, but didn't get it, while others were assigned to it when it was not on their list. (Re: 5:50 PM "0/10. Jose Ortega") This is not right!

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  199. 6:07 Order doesn't matter this year.

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  200. There are two JOES, the CIS and the ES. No one was assigned to the CIS who did not list it.

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