Thursday, September 2, 2010

The 3-day count continues....and continues...well beyond 3 days

This from a reader:
There are still many people waiting and I see August 23 post "The 3 Day Count Continues" has over 400 replies (and still going). The latest controversy is that the waitlist was supposed to be dissolved August 31. It now seems they are keeping the waitlist at least until September 10. For some families, it's a relief. For others, it's an outrage.

Regardless, I want to see if there is still movement. I'm especially curious to see if there were indeed some private school families using public schools as "camp" (because if the early public school start date). I know there are some privates starting after Labor Day.

45 comments:

  1. Lafayette got a few new K's the beginning of this week. Now all K classes are full capacity. I know the girl who got in my daughter's class was wait listed at another school and the EPC offered them the last opening at Lafayette.

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  2. That means Lafayette must have cleared its whole waiting pool. And the little girl was able to get the spot as open enrollement. Lafayette had 8 kids on the list as of Aug 6 and 5 of them were in the late co-hort. That's good news for Layfayette waitpoolers. Glad they all got in and then some. What other schools might have cleared their waitpools and could possibly have openings for those still waiting?

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  3. Is there still movement in the schools?

    So is the dissolution of waitlist different from prior years? I thought there was movement in prior years into October.

    After September 10, EPC is going to stop making calls all together (or are they only going to call private/parochial kids)?

    I know a family who is leaving the city sometime in mid-September (and leaving my waitlisted school). I'm already enrolled in a public school (not my first choice). I'm debating dis-enrolling my school (to homeschool for a couple of weeks if I have to) when I find out the family has left and trying to get that space. It's a HUGE gamble.

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  4. The movement in prior years in Oct. is for non-district kids. EPC will call kids off waitlists that are not currently enrolled (the ones in private, transitional k, etc.) If you are enrolled at SFUSD you cannot transfer schools once the waitpools are dissolved. SFUSD thinks it's dissuptive. You can only transfer if you have a change of address or there is a safety issue (with a police report).

    Homeschooling for a few weeks is a risk, but I think it would work. I would talk to someone at EPC b/f I did it though to make sure that you don't have to be out of the district for a certain amount of time (weeks, month, etc). It would suck to get stuck on a technicality. It's also risky b/c it is first come first served. What are the chances some other parent will be in EPC the day that spot comes open and ask for it ahead of you. Yikes

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  5. Yes 10:21 but they say the waitpool will be dissolved this year and they will not be making calls to folks in our out of SFUSD. I was told at EPC it will be first come first serve if there is an opening at a school. Need spies to find out if someone is moving or leaving the school. The hell continues

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  6. It seems if they were going to do an ad hoc change to the stated "policy" by extending the waitpools until Sept 10, then they should have also given some priority in the "lottery" to kids that "were out of district." Since at that point they lost out on a number of chances at first come, first serve openings this week.

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  7. Our child just got a spot at CIS K with sibling priority. The first grade sib got in earlier this week. Not sure if there is another spot at CIS K.

    We are leaving behind a K and 1 spot at Rosa Parks JBBP. We love RP dearly, and fully recommend it to anyone looking, but really wanted the Chinese experience for our kids (no other reason).

    Continued good luck to everyone!

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  8. I know a few families at Dianne Feinstein are forced to leave due to residency fraud. Perhaps more K spot will open up.

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  9. how did these families get busted?

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  10. I know another family that got busted and opened up a spot at Aptos. The district is clearly taking all this very seriously and working hard on it. Good for them!

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  11. Frustrating to learn some out of the city folks are taking up spaces at schools/trophy schools!

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  12. "Frustrating to learn some out of the city folks are taking up spaces at schools/trophy schools!"

    Apparently they aren't anymore!

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  13. I just saw on another list that the GE kindergarten classes at Glen Park have openings. Can't vouch for the accuracy of that, but it's a great little neighborhood school with lots of active parents there.

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  14. Was the Aptos spot that opened up in honors or gen ed?

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  15. I'm sending my kid to a pre-k program even though she is more than ready for K because I was hoping there would be some movement after the wait pools were dissolved. Now I'm hearing the wait pools weren't dissolved???? I am puzzled. Why is the EPC able to change the rules in the middle of this so called "process"? They are completely unbending when it comes to allowing my kid into her neighborhood school "its just the system", but the system changes? Wow, I'm already frustrated when I drive my kid past our local school (walkable), hoping and waiting for a spot - the EPC just keeps telling me nothing is available. I'm sorry if you are stuck in a school you don't like very much and want to trade up, but the wait pools were supposed to be closed by now and I think the EPC should stick with its own system.

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  16. Glen Park is a fine place to go--growing PTA, and the K classes are great. If the middle school feeders stay the same (not clear), it will funnel into Aptos, which may draw more local parents in, as will the neighborhood preference in the new SAS, which is likely to stay the same. It's a beautiful old building too.

    If there really are open spots with no waitpool, and you still need a spot, and you live anywhere close (it is quite accessible even to the Sunset via Laguna Honda to O'Shaunnessy, or via Monterey Blvd, there is lots of 4 hour parking around, plus there is BART and it's right on the 280), then go to EPC and nab one of these spaces.

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  17. Does anyone know of any First grade spaces, preferably near Bernal Heights... and I can dream of immersion. Our kids is currently on a transfer in another district, but there's a lot going on -- and closer to home might work better. But I'm guessing the odds of a seat anywhere are slim -- and EPC is no help at all until the waitlists are dealt with.

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  18. Glen Park might have first grade seats available (my kid's class isn't at 22). It's been a great school for us. I definitely give it the two thumbs up and I echo all the sentiments mentioned above. You can call PPS-SF to get our contact information - we are school ambassadors.

    And I know Paul Revere's K SI K class wasn't full last year. I imagine they would have a first grade spot there.

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  19. I believe our school, Leonard Flynn has 1st grade spots in GE. The whole school follows the International Baccalaureate Program- a inquiry based curriculum, with emphasis on building a global community. Even GE kids get 40 minutes of Spanish Language per day. This year we have a new principal who is incredible-used to be the beloved principal at Fairmount. I think Flynn in going to be highly sought after in next year's lottery--it will be a citywide school so anyone can apply.

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  20. Is EPC still making calls? Has anyone gotten a call today? Anyone see a new student in their kids class today?

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  21. My child’s class added a new student on Friday (Monroe SI). Another child will start in November (medical hardship).

    Good luck to those still waiting. I logged in today out of curiosity -- and in the hope that things did indeed work out for everyone here. I can’t believe this process is still going on for some.

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  22. 10:56 a.m. It is hard to believe the process continues.

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  23. A classmate in my child's K class at Jefferson will be starting at CIS/De Avila tomorrow. So I'm assuming EPC will try to fill the spot if anyone is left on the Jefferson waitlist.

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  24. My child said today that someone left his class at West Portal K GE. I have not confirmed this with the teacher, it's from a 5 year old so could be wrong. But we were talking about his class at dinner and I said there are 22 kids and he was adamant there was not b/c one boy had left.

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  25. How many families are still without an assignment? How many families are happy at their assigned school and are truly willing to move their child if the magical call comes in?

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  26. We are still waiting, but have given up at this point.

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  27. We'll stay in our parochial even if we get a call. Our kid is starting to get acclimated, and says of his 2nd grade teacher, "I know I'm learning, but he makes it so much fun I don't notice."

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  28. Any news from the families who enrolled in J Serra? Did everyone stay? Is J Serra a good option for open enrollment?

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  29. Still waiting. We will jump at the chance - breaks my heart to move my "slow to warm up kid", but I am not happy driving 1 hr before and after work everyday with a school accross the street.

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  30. Still waiting and going back and forth between hope and despair. My child is at an independant school but we will move him in a minute if we get a call. If the waitpool really does close tomorrow I guess I will just be calling around to different schools from now on and hope someone will tell me if there is an opening. This process is insanity.

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  31. 11:12--

    When the waitpools close, make a list, in order, of ALL the schools you would accept. Then go to EPC and ask, in order, if there are spots at them. Try to have an open mind. The K year will be just fine at most of our schools, including some not talked about here. You can try again next year for one that is closer / better for you.

    I'm sorry for the stress. Good luck.

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  32. I thought once you were enrolled in SFUSD, your odds in the next year's lottery went way down because you already have a school. I keep reading stories about how hard it is to transfer the following year once you're in the SFUSD. Seems like if you can afford it/tolerate it, a better option would be to go private or parochial for a year so you're applying from out-of-district.

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  33. 12:11--once you are enrolled it is hard to transfer during this year. You can enter the lottery along with anyone else for 1st grade. And presumbly you'll have neighborhood preference at that point for any spots that open up at your local school, if you like it--below only medical appeals and siblings. There are usually a few kids who leave each year in any class. The point is that a kid will do fine in most of our schools for one year. I'm not saying all is well or that it is convenient or perfect, but if a family really needs a spot (has nothing now) or it turns out they can't afford the tuition at private, then this is an option.

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  34. 12:11, one reason it is harder to transfer SFUSD at later grades is b/ct there are fewer open seats. Instead of 66 K spots, there are maybe 6-10 firs G spots from kids who have moved, transferred, etc. But there is nothing inherent in the system that discriminates against currently enrolled SFUSD kids.

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  35. 12:11, one reason it is harder to transfer SFUSD at later grades is b/ct there are fewer open seats. Instead of 66 K spots, there are maybe 6-10 firs G spots from kids who have moved, transferred, etc. But there is nothing inherent in the system that discriminates against currently enrolled SFUSD kids.

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  36. The real benefit to doing a year of private K is that you can transfer in to SFUSD at any point if a seat becomes available. Yes, you have to make a weekly call to the school or EPC and ask (nothing is easy) but if there is a spot, it's yours. SFUSD students cannot transfer within the district to get the spot. You can only transfer b/w schools if you move or there is a safety issue (with a police report).

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  37. The trick is how to find out if a popular school has a spot. EPC said they are usually the last to know and that there are often many kids vying for a spot even mid-year and it is first come first serve which is different than previous years when there was still a waitpool for several months. I don't have enough good spies in the schools I am interested in to keep me in the loop. You really need a school insider to let you know when someone is leaving or planning to leave.

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  38. Do not pick any SFUSD school just to have a school. Only enroll your child in a school that you could live with FOR 6 YEARS, because you can only transfer via lottery once you are in the system (with the exceptions that were already noted), and in truth, you may never get a school that you want in the lottery in subsequent years. There are countless messages on this blog of families entering the lottery year after year in grades 1 through 5 without success. Yes, some get into their dream school, but not everyone. So do not enroll unless your love affair with the school will last through thick and thin for all 6 years (K-5).

    At this point, if you have the means, stay out of a SFUSD school: homeschooling, preK class, private, parochial, grandma, auntie, whomever or whatever. Then, as the previous poster suggested, start visiting or calling EPC regularly for a K opening. At that point, you are out-of-district transfer, and EPC must give you a placement (unlike the unfortunate family who enrolled before the waitpools dissolved and is now stuck at a school that they hate and must use the 2011 lottery to get out).

    Many good schools get openings during the school year, so lighten up and enjoy time with your child. It is only kindergarten, not freshman year at Cal Poly.

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  39. There's a pre-K opening at Pacific Primary.

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  40. We received a call from EPC this morning and got the spot that we were waiting for five months. I'd like to say thanks to Katie and other parents who make great contribution to this blog.
    To people who are still waiting, please do not give up. You might receive a call from EPC next week.

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  41. 3:52 PM what school????????????? We love details!

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  42. Posted last week that friends were likely pulling out of great schools to start privates, and indeed they did. Hope those waiting for a spot at two schools in the Richmond got a call or will next week.

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  43. In regards to J Serra from what I've heard from folks there it is a good option with a group of commited parents, an open principal and lots of room for new ideas. They are starting an afterschool Spanish language program with Lango I hear in the coming weeks

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  44. Hi, I haven't tuned in to K files in a while. But I want to let those of you who are school-less or otherwise in need of nice K option about our surprise happiness at our 0/7 assigned neighborhood school. I'm a parent of kindergardener in the Annex classroom of J Serra and honestly it's been really great, with pleasant surprises at every turn. I have no idea what is happening with the EPC and how it works after the close of the waitpool, but I just want to let people know that we don't have 22 children and the Annex K classroom is a really nice happy sweet scene.

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  45. Seems like those without an assignment are now delegated to the rare minority. Here is to hoping 1st grade is the ticket as I really cannot see anyone going down to EPC every week about openings. After all, they have a kid to take care of and how do you explain to a 5 year old why once again one is at this boring place which seems to have no spaces available at a decent school. Most movement is done. It stinks.

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