Saturday, March 20, 2010

PPS: Wait pools

This from Parents for Public Schools:
There has been some discussion about whether assignments from the wait pools or the amended choices are random or not.

In my discussions with the EPC this morning I learned that they are not random. That the same algorithm used in Round 1 is used in the wait pools and amended choices. They may appear so since the applicant pools, particularly in the wait pools, are very similar to each other and the size of the pools are much, much smaller but the same algorithm is used.

11 comments:

  1. Same algorithm means they are still looking for attendance area and diversity?

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  2. Can you please clarify what this means:

    "That the same algorithm used in Round 1 is used in the wait pools and amended choices. They may appear so since the applicant pools, particularly in the wait pools, are very similar to each other and the size of the pools are much, much smaller but the same algorithm is used."

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  3. Yes, attendance area is still used since it is apart of the algorithm.

    What this means is that first, within each of the priority cohorts, within the applicant pool, they will look first for candidates who add diversity to the school who live in the attendance area (if it is an attendance area school). If they cannot find anyone within the attendance area who adds diversity the algorithm looks for diversity outside of the attendance area of the school.

    In this algorithm diversity trumps attendance area and is made up of four criteria (2 economic indicators, 1 for preschool, 1 for English Language learners) The goal is to have 50% of each of these characteristic in the K class.

    Its complicated and its really an unknown factor how it impacts the waitpools. The numbers are so much smaller with 5, 10, 20 people in an individual waitpool within a priority cohort. The numbers are not large enough to make broad references to odds. You really can't know.

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  4. How does that work for upper grades (including the non-milestone years)? For example, are they still looking at preschool attendance for 7th graders?

    Thanks!

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  5. Diversity will also be used within the cohort for hardship appeals as well.

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  6. have you all read how it works? http://portal.sfusd.edu/data/epc/Options_WP_English.pdf

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  7. anyone know how I file a hardship appeal?

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  8. It will be interesting to see if the new student assignment system will be able to avoid this problem of neighborhood overcrowding that has arisen in NYC:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/nyregion/24waiting.html?hpw

    It may be that 10 years from now, parents will be demanding a choice system back (when they plunk down an extra hundred thou to live in the West Portal district and find themselves assigned to Sheridan or wherever). At least choice gives more "outs" and room for savvy decisions. Etc.

    Not arguing for either, just thinking that the real issue in student assignment is how to allocate desired spots and avoid the s***storm that arises when some (esp middle class) people get bumped into schools that few want and everyone hopes go to Someone Else's Precious Child.

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  9. Can someone tell me if I'm reading this doc right. The waitpool numbers are from April, the initial number of people in the wait pool. Then the last column is the total number of kids placed in that school from April to Sept. Is that right?

    http://portal.sfusd.edu/data/epc/WP_Historical%2009-10%20Update.pdf

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  10. Just heard back from a counselor at EPC that waiting Pool List will be posted on their web page www.sfusd.edu on April 5, 2010. After that day you will have until April 9, to make a change on your waiting pool school.

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  11. The waitpool cohorts have been published on SFUSD's website. Can we start a new posting regarding this?

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