Sunday, August 30, 2009

Hot topic: 10 day count

An SF K Files visitor asked me to post the following:
I'm still on the wait pool for my number-one school and am hoping to get a call this week or next, though I have no idea if EPC actually will call. I'm curious if others are still waiting and if there has been any movement off wait pools yet.

33 comments:

  1. Yes, we too are waiting to hear from our waitpool school, and actually have no idea if and when that call will come. I keep being told that if i can stomach it, everything is going to work out; but kindergarten starts tommorow, my child is so far not enrolled in any school, and I have to say my stomach...not so good.

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  2. I'm also waiting. Brought my son to our R2 school this morning, but it's far and we REALLY hope to get our WP choice in our neighborhood. It's still a long wait - the final WP run won't be until Sept 18th, still four long weeks of uncertainty.

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  3. To bring you some hope, waitpool waiters, we got our WP school on Friday! Down to the wire!
    I hope it works out for you all!

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  4. We enrolled elsewhere for first grade, so that will be one less 0/7 person on the Grattan 1st grade wait list.

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  5. Congratulations, Growing Tree Mama!

    Would you mind telling us which school? It's helpful to hear where there has been movement.

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  6. My son had his first day of school at his R2 school, which is a TOUGH commute for us, and we're still waitlisting a school closer to home. I called the EPC on Friday and was told that I wouldn't hear anything about waitpool openings until August 28th at the earliest.

    We're between a rock and a hard place right now because there is are no after-school program openings at our current school AND even if there were, they are astronomically expensive.

    Very emotional here.

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  7. Has anyone been to the EPC this week? I went on Monday morning and it was a zoo - the entire waiting room was filled, and the queue just to get a number was filled to the door. I left and will go back later this week.

    If someone's gone this week - when and has it died down?

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  8. We r still waiting for a spot in k in our neighborhood (we are currently at a school we pick from open enrollment)...fingers cross

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  9. I was at EPC Monday morning. I arrived around 9:30 and only waited a few minutes to get a number. Then I had to wait a little over an hour to see a counselor. It seemed to get even busier as I waited so maybe early morning is best. The man I spoke to said every school usually has at least one opening. They give the no-show kids 3 days (until Wed.) to appear and spend that time also trying to contact families to figure out if they are going to come. He thought they'll know of some openings by Thursday and may start calling families from wait pool then. Good Luck!

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  10. Does anyone know if it's possible to still change waitpools? Is there a cut-off?

    We NEED to change schools, unfortunately, due to a really rough commute that just isn't going to work for our family PLUS no available after-school programs. I'm starting to panic that our current waitpool isn't going to clear and we'll be frozen at a school that would really make our lives difficult.

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  11. In case anyone's interested, I found out today that there's a 1st grade slot available at Argonne. Someone moved and didn't tell the school.

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  12. and we're taking our name out of the clarendon GE waitpool. subtract 1 in the 1st cohort.

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  14. We received the call from EPC yesterday that our child got a spot at our kindergarten waitpool school. Also, from what I understand, EPC is calling on a "real-time" basis when the school receives notification that a student will not be enrolling and not waiting "10 days."

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  15. We got into our WP school on Friday afternoon, Clarendon GE, so there is hope! Good luck everyone!!

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  16. We just got call from EPC that we got into our waitpool school for Kindergarten (Miraloma).

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  17. Did anyone know that certain schools will remain a kindergarten class size of 20?

    I was granted a family hardship appeal for my waitlisted school. 22 were originally placed in the class in Round 1. When I found out only 20 kids showed up for class on Monday, I thought, Great!...I'm in.

    Throughout the summer, when I asked about availability, EPC told me "no movement". That's not exactly true. Two students did drop at some point...but now EPC says the principal and the district decided they were going to keep the class size to 20.

    Does anyone know when the decision was made that certain schools would be exempt from the class size increase? When did they make this decision? Which schools are exempt? Who made the decision? Was there any public input?

    I'm outraged at the lack of transparency. I only found out because a parent with a child in kindergarten class told me there were only 20 kids.

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  18. Testing, certain schools are not allowed to increase class sizes. My understanding is--someone correct me if I am wrong--that these are the Title 1 schools (federal designation related to poverty that means federal dollars). Paul Revere is one of these, for example. This decision is not driven at the local or district level.

    However, it would be odd for such a school to have received 22 placements back in round 1. It would also be odd that such a decision (to go back to 20 instead of 22) be made at the local (principal or site council level), given that the increase to 22 is supposed to be across the board. The district could make this decision, however. It would be worth finding out more....would you be willing to post the name of this school? Someone here (Rachel Norton?) may be able to shed some light.

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    Finally, congrats to everyone who got their WP schools so far. Good news!

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  19. Clarendon reports that it has openings in Grade 2-5 for anyone who needs those grades.

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  20. We heard two Spanish-dominant girls dropped out of Alvarado Spanish-immersion kindergarten.
    Wonder if they'll be looking for Spanish-speaking girls for those particular spots or just picking names at random.

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  21. We got a call from Grattan today for 1st grade but turned it down because we've already paid for private. So somebody should be getting a call soon--congratulations in advance. Next year I'll have more faith and ride out the 10-day count.

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  22. I have also heard that there are spots at Clarendon GE in 2nd and 3rd grades, and at JBBP in 4th and 5th grades. Contact the EPC!

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  23. We got a call today around 4:15 from SFUSD offering us a K spot at our waitlist school, Commodore Sloat. As ecstatic as we are, we are also feeling sadness because we had started bonding at our son's current school. It will be tough to leave his classmates, his teacher, and the small, close-knit school community. As much as we love the current school, it just isn't working for our family logistically.

    We start at Commodore Sloat tomorrow.

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  24. We're vacating a spot at Jose Ortega (General Ed).

    We just got our waitpool choice of Alvarado! I was just at the EPC about to give up hopes of Alvarado and switch to a school with a smaller waitpool and the counselor checked first and told me that I was on the list to be called for Alvarado later today - would I take it?

    Whew! It's been a HARD 5 months since going 0/7 in round one.

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  25. I took the trouble to register in order to say how heart-warming I've found it to read about people getting their wait pool schools. Congratulations, and have a great year!! It must be especially nice after all the pessimistic feedback at times about how people were all but delusional to stay in big wait pools.

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  26. (This is a repost from earlier today, given the new and more relevant topic)

    For those still searching for the right fit, just found out that there are kinder openings in Rosa Parks JBBP and GE. Apprently several registered families went private or got their public school waitlist. There are 2 GE kinder classes and 3 JBBP kinder classes (the new JBBP K teacher is from Clarendon).

    To check out the school, contact the office at 415. 749. 3519.

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  27. We learned today that there was a 3-day count and slots have been being filled since. We thought we had until just before the 10-day count to switch our waitpool if it looked bad in our current pool (it does). As a result, we lost a chance at another school we might have taken. On Day 2 of school, EPC told us there "might" be slots at this other school, but they could not confirm. Thus we were reluctant to switch off the pool list for the school we really want. What a ridiculous process.
    To above poster who got into Alvarado, was this Span Imm? We are still hoping against reason to get into Fairmount, but EPC says any openings will for sure go to Spanish speakers, and that if there are none, the slots will go vacant. This seems crazy as well. Note that while certain Spanish Immersions schools are held to the language balance rule (proper ratio Eng-Span kids) others are not (e.g. Marshall, PR). Seats will remain unfilled at Fairmount if openings occur and no Span spkrs to take them.
    Congrats to those who have had wait pool success. We're going into our second year of wait-pooling....if you have twins, forget it!

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  28. rumor has it that here are some Kinder and First Grade openings at Jose Ortega ...

    pounch on the chance ...

    it's a great little school

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  29. I was the one who got an Alvarado spot - it was General Ed, not SI.

    Regarding the 10-day-count... I think that's the "end" of openings, but apparently once school started last Monday, schools would do their headcounts, and if they had confirmed openings (i.e. school calls parent of no-show, parent says we're not attending we went private) they reported them to the EPC and the EPC pulled waitlist people nearly immediately. Not sure whether they would have released a seat for no-shows if they weren't able to contact them or if those wait the full 10 days.

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  30. Also: My understanding is that Marshall is stuck with more Spanish speakers than English speakers because they have such a large sibling pool of Spanish speakers. To balance the kinder class, they would have to disenroll younger siblings of children already attending.

    Our daughter's Spanish-Immersion class at Alvarado is pretty balanced in terms of Spanish speakers and English speakers, but nearly all of the Spanish-dominant kids happen to be BOYS!

    We're hoping the EPC will assign a Spanish-dominant girl to our daughter's class so she won't be the only one!

    Fingers crossed.

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  31. Responding to Ellen's comment re: the difficulty of getting twins into a popular school.

    Once one twin is accepted into a school, the second twin is jumped up to the sibling cohort, which means that in almost every case twin 2 gets the next available spot.

    We managed to get our twins into our waitpool school (Clarendon) and prior to that had secured spots at Lakeshore. I think families of twins are treated very fairly in the process.

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  32. The tenth day of the 10-Day count is Friday, right?
    Does that mean that the EPC will start dropping kids and calling people on Friday? Or will we have to wait over the long holiday weekend? Anybody know?

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  33. For those of you looking for first grade spots next year, Dianne Feinstein usually has first grade spots that open up over the summer (this year there were 10 new first graders in 4 1st grade classes!) The reason is (according to our teacher): many neighborhood families who plan to go to catholic school enroll their young 5 year olds in kindergarten when they don't make the parochial school summer birthday cut-offs. After the kids do K at Dianne Feinstein, they do the K year over at a parochial school. Not sure why it happens at DFES and not other schools, but apparently it does. The waitlist cleared in the July pool this year.

    Good luck in the 10 day count, everyone!

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